[Rainer.]

Most important thing is do not dwell on your feelings. Keep yourself occupied in other ways. Don't try to force yourself to "get over it", because thinking about it more is generally not going to be helpful. Give it time, and trust in God to be your help.

[Kentl]

well i need to get over it because wean i go to sunday scholl
(she goes to my class) i cry just by seeing her

as a mater of fact she is the reason i dont go to scholl any more
i would come home evrey day just sit on the bed in cry my eyes so they moved me thinking if i saw her once a week it would go away (two years later) it has not
and i will just cry without stoping and will have to leave so someone can learn somthing

and what is the worst she ask me what is wrong?
what do i tell her the truth
you make me cry my eyes out and i cant be near you?
i dont think so
or lie not a good idea

not say anything? i hate doing that


so if i get over it then i will be okay bit i cant and it is ruing my life and a lot of peoples sunday

[asiammyself]

So is it the closeness you want to another? Everyone strives for human relationship. That is understandable, it is a struggle for many people especially teenagers to deal with. I found personally that after having a girlfriend where in the relationship we did kiss/hold hands etc. After breaking up I found a longing for that, it is something that I don't believe will stop. It's like getting just a small hint about what love is about and now it's what you want to strive to have forever with another. Now that you've just scratched the surface of what a loving relationship is, you will always want that. But instead of trying to satisfy this give every craving you have for a girl to God . Don't worry about girls, just chill, the perfect one will come when your not expecting it. Talk to girls sure, build relationships with them. Talking gets a little smoother but being nervous hits all of us. Oh and whenever you start daydreaming about the girl next to you in sunday school, stop yourself and just build a relationship as a friend and maybe in a couple years, just maybe you can start about seriously thinking about more then friendship. The most wonderful advice I received from family was to start a friendship it'll no doubt last longer then a teenage dating relationship, and your'll have better memories of them too.

[Kentl]

thanks man i will try

[Gods*Armygirl]

I agree with what asiammyself said.

Trust in God and he will give you the desires of your heart. He will bring the right girl along in his own time, but being a teenager things are tough. I know all about that, but it doesn't mean the end of the world. The right girl will come someday, but you shouldn't be worrying over a girl now. You're young. Enjoy being young and take this time to make your relationship with God even stronger. His will WILL be done in the right time.

We all have some kind of pain, and almost anyone can relate to having relationship, or just girl or boy problems. We all hurt, and we all have times where things are really hard and we don't know what to do. That's when you really need to turn to God to help you though, because He will. Trying to force yourself to get over it, or only thinking about it all of the time will only make things worse. I've been there before and they don't get any better if you think like that. Everything really does happen for a reason. Take every day as it comes and eventually you'll find yourself looking back on things and how they were at this time. It will all work out.

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Kentl

well i need to get over it because wean i go to sunday scholl
(she goes to my class) i cry just by seeing her

This is not a bipolar symptom. An OCD perhaps, but far more likely a cognitive disorder. Bring it up with your psychiatrist (even if someone here were qualified to, which we aren't, we lack the personal experience to render more than a guess). If it is cognitive, he'll likely send you to a psychologist for counseling.

as a mater of fact she is the reason i dont go to scholl any more i would come home evrey day just sit on the bed in cry my eyes so they moved me thinking if i saw her once a week it would go away (two years later) it has not and i will just cry without stoping and will have to leave so someone can learn somthing

You were pulled from school and there's been no professional intervention?!?

Bi-polar is treatable but doesn't, in my experience, cause the symptoms you are describing (I have a bi-polar ex-wife)

so if i get over it then i will be okay bit i cant and it is ruing my life and a lot of peoples Sunday

I'm unclear. Are you out of school or out of church/sunday-school?

Is there really only one church with only one mass available to attend?

Seriously: seek professional help.

[Kentl]

okay i am out of normal school, and yes itis the only church i can go to i live in Texas man
there is nothing but farm around here
and i have help okay?
i see one every Wednesday

and i dont know what you think bi poler is but look up or ask about it
because bi poler effects everyone defrintly with me it makes me sad not angry like most
and plus my bi poler is a serious case, and yeah i know get help well they say it is because of my bi poler that is all i know okay
now i am sorry i put this thread up


what do you mean by professional what ever you said?

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Kentl

okay i am out of normal school, and yes itis the only church i can go to i live in Texas man
there is nothing but farm around here

I'm just surprised that the church has only one mass.

and i have help okay?
i see one every Wednesday

One what? A psychologist? What is his diagnosis of this particular issue?

and i dont know what you think bi poler is but look up or ask about it
because bi poler effects everyone defrintly with me it makes me sad not angry like most
and plus my bi poler is a serious case, and yeah i know get help well they say it is because of my bi poler that is all i know okay

Bipolar disorder is a condition in which people experience abnormally elevated (manic or hypomanic) and abnormally depressed states for a period of time in a way that interferes with functioning.

Actually "sad" and "angry" are usually the two opposite poles ("angry" is generally a manic state, but can occur in depression; similarly euphoria can occur in mania).

But it's not that you are depressed that makes me believe that you are dealing with something else in the case of the girl, it's the fact that there is a specific trigger that creates a predictable response. That seems far more indicative of a cognitive disorder or (if there are other stimuli) perhaps an OCD.

I'm certainly not saying you *aren't* bi-polar; I'm saying that I suspect there's more going on. But in absolutely no way should that be taken as me arguing against a psychiatrist familiar with you.

now i am sorry i put this thread up

You can always close it if you like.

what do you mean by professional what ever you said?

I mean you need effective counseling, and (if OCD) possibly medication.

The problem with the latter is that, if you are bi-polar, anti-OCD meds (which are also anti-depression meds) will tend to make you manic. That might even be the reason you are not on them. It's a question/discussion you should have with your psychiatrist.

[Kentl]

yeah i meant a what ever i cant spell it (not even going to try)
well i mean what can you do i cant take some medicine's becase bad reactions to them
and as for med my parents deal with that i dont so they will have to
uhh my Church has only 82 members (on a good day)
i mean no disrespect but a lot of people think that evrey town has over 1000 pepeol
not even so no we only have one (they are talking about closing it) but i hope that dont happening there are no other church around here


he says that my bi poler is a part it the other part being i am a teenager but says i shold not be in tears all the time
i dont know what OCD is but they have not said anything about it besides i dont need any more
things wrong with me

[Sean]

[QUOTE=Kentl;3384240]
i mean no disrespect but a lot of people think that evrey town has over 1000 pepeol
not even so no we only have one (they are talking about closing it) but i hope that dont happening there are no other church around here
/QUOTE]
He isn't asking if there is another church. He's asking if there is another service.

[Kentl]

no there is not we have only one
do church have more then one?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Kentl

no there is not we have only one
do church have more then one?

Many do

[Kentl]

mine dont

[Here-am-I]

To everyone telling him it doesn't sound like he's bi-polar:

Isn't it kind of a rule-of-thumb on this site to not give medical advice because no one is particularly qualified to do so? It seems kind of silly that people are trying to diagnose this kid just by reading some internet posts. From the information he has provided, it seems that he indeed is seeing a medical professional/therapist - so why push it any further? I would assume the person he is seeing weekly knows his stuff. Well, I at least hope so...

I understand that a lot of the people on here replying to this thread have some connection or another to bi-polar disease, but does that make you a complete expert in all areas of the subject? I would suspect that the disease variates in symptoms, etc from person to person - for instance, like one person's OCD is different from another person's OCD. Some of you sound like you have some great information pertaining to the disease, but I just am not convinced that that makes it ok for you to diagnose (in a way... not literally) someone else - unless of course you're a medical professional or the like.

Anyway, I just wanted to put my 0.02 in about the whole thing. He didn't post here to ask if he's bi-polar or not; he wants help dealing with it.

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Here-am-I

To everyone telling him it doesn't sound like he's bi-polar:

Actually, we've mostly said that the described problem doesn't sound like bi-polar.

Isn't it kind of a rule-of-thumb on this site to not give medical advice because no one is particularly qualified to do so?

But pretty much all of us have both deferred to and recommended professional evaluation / care. Have we given a different impression?

It seems kind of silly that people are trying to diagnose this kid just by reading some internet posts. From the information he has provided, it seems that he indeed is seeing a medical professional/therapist - so why push it any further? I would assume the person he is seeing weekly knows his stuff. Well, I at least hope so...

Because he asked?

I don't know what professional he's seeing. I'm often surprised how many people are on psychiatric meds from general practitioner. I also don't know if he's relayed to them what he's relayed to us.

You are correct though in saying that his doctor is whom he should really be taking his lead from. I've said as much and I believe others have as well.

I understand that a lot of the people on here replying to this thread have some connection or another to bi-polar disease, but does that make you a complete expert in all areas of the subject?

Again I think we've been clear there. Bill questioned whether he had been actually diagnosed. Since he said he had, no one has doubted the diagnosis; we've doubted the tie between that disorder and the issue being described. Do you feel this doubt is unreasonable?

I would suspect that the disease variates in symptoms, etc from person to person - for instance, like one person's OCD is different from another person's OCD.

Sure, but OCD isn't characterized by an inability to feel shame (borderline personality disorder / sociopathy) or hearing voices (schizophrenia or some DID/depressions).

But again yes: considering the severity of the effect (dropped out of school) this should be dealt with by a professional psychologist and/or psychiatrist.

Anyway, I just wanted to put my 0.02 in about the whole thing. He didn't post here to ask if he's bi-polar or not; he wants help dealing with it.

And how do we fix the problem without identifying what the problem is?

Let's assume that the diagnosis (bi-polar) is related to the problem (obsession over a girl). In that case, the solution is "see your psychiatrist, he may adjust your meds" and "see your psychologist for BP-associated cognitive counseling). The advise looks the same for OCD.

If it's purely cognitive, then medication isn't the solution (though an anti-anxiety med might not hurt).

But yes, again, my advice is to take it up with a professional. If that isn't / hasn't fixed the problem, take *that* up with said professional or find another doctor.