[CRockGuitarist]

Boy it's been a while since I've posted on this forum!

First some background: I play electric guitar with the worship band on Sunday mornings at my church. I've recently decided to sell my stompbox/pedal setup (because I'm tired of lugging it in and setting up for practice in the middle of the week and then again on Sunday) and switch to an all-in-one multi-effects/amp-cap modeler.

The three units I have looked into have been the Line 6 POD X3 Live, the Boss GT-10, and the Vox ToneLab LE. I played with the GT-10 for quite a bit today in a music store nearby, and I may try out the Vox LE tomorrow at a different store (though I've recently ruled that one out due to not have as many features as the other units). I haven't found a store near me with an X3 live demo setup, so I haven't been able to try that one out.

From what I've read, it seems that both the X3L and the GT-10 have the same effects and amp models that I need/would use. Both are around the same price, so I'm having a hard time making a decision on which to buy.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these processors? Inside or outside of church? Any complaints?

Any comments would be much appreciated!

[Rainer.]

I use the PODxt Live as the main component of my rig in basically every gig I do these days, including worship. I plug right into the board. The controls are very intuitive, it has every sound I need, and the sounds are superb. I can't really comment on how the Boss sounds, but the units seem to be quite comparable. I really love my PODxt, and the PODx3 has a lot more routing options and features that make it basically everything I'd need in a rig.

[playing4one]

I don't think that you should put the Tonelab out until you try it. I sold all of my pedals about a year ago and got a Tonelab LE because the new church that my wife & I were attending would not allow amps on stage. I went through all of the line 6 stuff and I just could not find anything I liked in it. In my humble opinion the Tonelab has the best "real" tube amp sound compared to the other modellers out on the market right now. It may not have all of the bells & whistles that the Line 6 or Boss stuff has but it sure does make up for it in the tone and feel department. I am not saying that it is what you should get but at least give it a try.

P.S. I have nothing against Line 6 or Boss they are just not my cup o'tea.

[CRockGuitarist]

Originally Posted by playing4one

I don't think that you should put the Tonelab out until you try it. I sold all of my pedals about a year ago and got a Tonelab LE because the new church that my wife & I were attending would not allow amps on stage. I went through all of the line 6 stuff and I just could not find anything I liked in it. In my humble opinion the Tonelab has the best "real" tube amp sound compared to the other modellers out on the market right now. It may not have all of the bells & whistles that the Line 6 or Boss stuff has but it sure does make up for it in the tone and feel department. I am not saying that it is what you should get but at least give it a try.

P.S. I have nothing against Line 6 or Boss they are just not my cup o'tea.

Thanks for the input. I tried out the Tonelab today. It sounded really good, even though I only browsed the stock presets/patches since I didn't have the time to try to create my own. I was wondering, since the Tonelab doesn't have an XLR output, what kind of DI do you use to get into the PA system?

The only thing that bothers me (not sure if that's the right word to describe it though) about the Tonelab is the lack of flexibility. For example, on the GT-10, you can "program" 6 of the buttons to control almost whatever you want (as opposed to the single control button on the Tonelab). The downside of the Boss is that it does have a slight digital sound to it.

It seems the biggest factors in my decision (in my case, anyway) are flexibility vs. tonal quality.

choices, choices, choices...

[gt8gtrman]

If you can afford the $275 stereo or $215 mono, I highly recommend the Radtone Harmonic Converger for any of these boxes. It takes the nasty fizz out of the distortion tones and makes them sound very tube (valve) natural. It does not have XLRs either but everyone I know of who has purchased the product is ecstatic about the results. Any decent DI box should give you the XLR output. I use A Hum Eliminator by ART which provides isolation and has two inputs and two outputs for stereo use. It cost me about $50 at Sweetwater. I use my GT 8 -> Harmonic Converger ->ART Harmonic Converger -> Mixing Board. I foldback through monitor to get my stage sound.

[amliu]

Here are the main differences in features
Line 6:
Can process two instruments at a time, does, guitar, bass, and vocals, great software
Boss:
Loop pedal
Which one is more important to you?

[guitarman19853]

Originally Posted by gt8gtrman

If you can afford the $275 stereo or $215 mono, I highly recommend the Radtone Harmonic Converger for any of these boxes. It takes the nasty fizz out of the distortion tones and makes them sound very tube (valve) natural. It does not have XLRs either but everyone I know of who has purchased the product is ecstatic about the results. Any decent DI box should give you the XLR output. I use A Hum Eliminator by ART which provides isolation and has two inputs and two outputs for stereo use. It cost me about $50 at Sweetwater. I use my GT 8 -> Harmonic Converger ->ART Harmonic Converger -> Mixing Board. I foldback through monitor to get my stage sound.

I don't feel that the GT-10 needs the harmonic converger. I preferred my sound without it in the loop. My buddy has a GT-8 with the converger that he runs direct and it works well on the 8.

I think the biggest thing to me is that the GT-10 has much more flexibility in tone creation than the Line 6 products. Line 6 has better sounding distortions right out of the box for direct, but you can achieve good sound through tweaking the GT-10.

[thesteve]

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