[x_cheese_y]

To what extent is it ok to use drugs or medications to "fix" problems that pose no threat to the long-term health of a person? Should medicines and drugs be used to escape complications that arise out of simply being a human? Does the Bible have anything to say about this?

For example, I was recently made aware of the fact that many, if not the majority, of girls I know (unmarried and saving themselves for marriage) are on birth control pills. I guess they have all been told by their doctor that they have hormonal or other issues that can be fixed with the birth control pill. And I am serious when I say a LOT of girls are on the pill. But aren't these emotions that girls go through part of being female and growing up to become adults? (I am in high school, and these girls of whom I speak are in high school.)

Many depressed people are told they have a chemical imbalance and are put on medications that changes their whole personality, putting emotions into their brain that aren't really there. It makes me wonder whether they are really living out who they really are. How they feel is only a reaction to a drug, not what they really feel.

Also, literally about half of the overweight people I know have been told that they have a thyroid problem. I witness these people eat far more than they should and not exercise as much as is necessary to maintain a healthy weight, but their doctors tell them they have a thyroid issue and put them on medication. They then can blame all of their problems on this medical issue.

Personally, I don't take hardly any medicine at all. I suffer from migraines, but do not take anything for them because they always go away after a good night's sleep. And they seem to be triggered by lack of food and sleep. So instead of taking medication for them, I alter my lifestyle to make it more beneficial to my health. I guess I just think God would not have created human bodies that are incapable of existing without the aid of artificial medications. The animals are not reliant upon medication to live. Should we be?

[Demon_Hunter]

Except some people may really need those pills.

Sure, there are some who abuse it, and will use anything to keep from taking personal responsibility for why they are who they are.

But some people really do have chemical or hormonal embalances, and drugs help.

[x_cheese_y]

But is a hormonal imbalance really something that needs fixing? Isn't it just a part of who we are? I guess this is all happening because our society places so much importance on fitting in. I guess we are all supposed to try and be as "normal" as we can.

But the way I see it, if someone has a hormonal imbalance, that is who they are. As long as its not going to kill them or cause serious physical harm, there is no need to take medicine.

...should I begin to take medication because I tend to have very strong outbursts of anger sometimes? I do struggle with a bad temper. Does this mean I need to take some kind of medication for it? I don't because I see it as part of who I am. I don't need to take some drug to reduce the effects of my own human nature coming out.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by Demon_Hunter

Except some people may really need those pills.

Sure, there are some who abuse it, and will use anything to keep from taking personal responsibility for why they are who they are.

But some people really do have chemical or hormonal embalances, and drugs help.

My mom for example, really needs them. When she is on her meds, I discovered she can be a sweet person. But that is a rarity for her. She has bipolar disorder and without pills, it isn't a matter of "her personality"

I suppose the OP has not considered brain tumors that effect personality as well? Or even strokes. Growing up, one of the kids in my age group at church was nice, and all of a sudden went nasty mean. Turned out he had brain cancer. It was removed and he went back to being a nice guy.

I have been on medications that altered my personality. Valium for example makes me dangerously depressed. I have uncontrollable thoughts of despair on it that my reason tells me are ridiculous. I can only imagine a life constantly like that. I was on it in an attempt to deal with muscle spasms in my back. Personally, I prefer the spasms even though they were very painful.

My wife has a hormone imbalance and it is very real. I do not want to go into all the details, but its caused 2 miscarriages and is not a fun thing at all. I actually find this thread rather offensive. I take medication every day for a problem in my digestive tract. It changes my intestines behavior. Cop-out? Unless I can find the cause, I could be on it till I die. I hate that, but it allows me to live more normally. In all fairness, I am having tons of tests done and seeking a solution.

Thyroid problems can be a real problem as well.

The Bible is not a medical text. So I really see nothing in scripture about medical problems really.

[x_cheese_y]

And about the issue of obesity and thyroid problems...my mom's friend is very overweight, and on a visit to the doctor was told she had a thyroid problem. She was told this was the reason for her obesity, and was put on medication. Then my mom, who admittedly is slightly overweight, decided that she might have a thyroid problem too, so she went to the doctor, and sure enough, she had a thyroid issue that was causing her overweight-ness(?). Then her other friend who was overweight did the same thing and was put on medication. All three were told they had a thyroid problem. I found this to be ridiculous and a waste of both the medication and the money spent on it. Now they all claim that they are overweight because of a thyroid problem, yet none of them ever exercise, and I have observed many unhealthy eating habits in them (I know this is harsh, and I do really love me mama , but she really does live an unhealthy lifestyle).

[Demon_Hunter]

Originally Posted by x_cheese_y

But is a hormonal imbalance really something that needs fixing? Isn't it just a part of who we are? I guess this is all happening because our society places so much importance on fitting in. I guess we are all supposed to try and be as "normal" as we can.

But the way I see it, if someone has a hormonal imbalance, that is who they are. As long as its not going to kill them or cause serious physical harm, there is no need to take medicine.

...should I begin to take medication because I tend to have very strong outbursts of anger sometimes? I do struggle with a bad temper. Does this mean I need to take some kind of medication for it? I don't because I see it as part of who I am. I don't need to take some drug to reduce the effects of my own human nature coming out.

If hormonal imbalance leads to you doing things that might be dangerous, its probably a good idea to get treatment.

And if you struggle with anger, go see a therapist.

Its not about trying to fit in, its about leading a healthy life. You cant be mentally healthy and suffer from intense hormonal embalances that seend your mood swinging from one end of the spectrum to the other at random moments.

God made us who we are, and he has giving us avenues of dealing with it. Just because God carefully knitt us together in the womb doesnt mean he intended us to stay that way. OTherwise we wouldnt grow or develop. We as humans are meant to change as we go along. If part of that change means drastically altering our bodies with drugs so that we can live normal healthy lives, then so be it.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by x_cheese_y

But is a hormonal imbalance really something that needs fixing? Isn't it just a part of who we are? I guess this is all happening because our society places so much importance on fitting in. I guess we are all supposed to try and be as "normal" as we can.

Replace hormonal imbalance with cancer. Or the fact that I have severe intestinal spasms that without medication will sometimes double me over 50 times a day. Its just a part of who I am, right? Its excruciating, it constrains me to within a short range from restrooms, but its "just part of who I am, so per you, I should accept it.

My wife's hormonal imbalance is not fun. It causes real problems. When it is helped, it helps us as a couple, not to e normal, but to live a better life.

But the way I see it, if someone has a hormonal imbalance, that is who they are. As long as its not going to kill them or cause serious physical harm, there is no need to take medicine.

Define serious harm. ANd why should it be confined to physical harm? Why leave out emotional?

...should I begin to take medication because I tend to have very strong outbursts of anger sometimes? I do struggle with a bad temper. Does this mean I need to take some kind of medication for it? I don't because I see it as part of who I am. I don't need to take some drug to reduce the effects of my own human nature coming out.

You show a great deal of ignorance of basic body chemistry. If you had some hormonal imbalance that for example was causing uncontrollable rage, (and as a child, I saw brain cancer do just that in a friend) and it was treatable, wouldn't you want the treatment? It would allow you to remain in control. In essence the scriptures about being drunk with wine might actually apply to an extent, and I would think the course of action which let you remain in control and be filled by the Spirit would be the right course to take.

Chances, are, you don't have an imbalance. Now if you were to actually have one... thats a different thing all together.

[x_cheese_y]

And I do not mean to offend anyone...the hormonal imbalances I am talking about are not ones that cause serious problems. They are hormonal imbalances that supposedly are the cause of very strong emotions in teenage girls. I know one girl, for example, who was very stressed all the time, and had difficulty sleeping. She was put on some medication for a "hormone imbalance", and is now doing a little better. But again...her lifestyle of 7 hours of school, followed by 6 hours of work, followed by 3 hours of hw did nothing to help this problem. She is a sweet girl, and I am glad to call her my friend, but it is just ridiculous what the doctor's tell her. They seem to tell her just about anything she wants to hear.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by x_cheese_y

And about the issue of obesity and thyroid problems...my mom's friend is very overweight, and on a visit to the doctor was told she had a thyroid problem. She was told this was the reason for her obesity, and was put on medication. Then my mom, who admittedly is slightly overweight, decided that she might have a thyroid problem too, so she went to the doctor, and sure enough, she had a thyroid issue that was causing her overweight-ness(?). Then her other friend who was overweight did the same thing and was put on medication. All three were told they had a thyroid problem. I found this to be ridiculous and a waste of both the medication and the money spent on it. Now they all claim that they are overweight because of a thyroid problem, yet none of them ever exercise, and I have observed many unhealthy eating habits in them (I know this is harsh, and I do really love me mama , but she really does live an unhealthy lifestyle).

And if they do have thyroid problems? DO you know whether they do?

I find this thread offensive.


It appears to be your excuse to rant at those you appear to dissaprove of their problems.

Thread closed.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by x_cheese_y

And I do not mean to offend anyone...the hormonal imbalances I am talking about are not ones that cause serious problems. They are hormonal imbalances that supposedly are the cause of very strong emotions in teenage girls. I know one girl, for example, who was very stressed all the time, and had difficulty sleeping. She was put on some medication for a "hormone imbalance", and is now doing a little better. But again...her lifestyle of 7 hours of school, followed by 6 hours of work, followed by 3 hours of hw did nothing to help this problem. She is a sweet girl, and I am glad to call her my friend, but it is just ridiculous what the doctor's tell her. They seem to tell her just about anything she wants to hear.

Thats not a weird schedule at all.


really, quit judging others and sitting in judgement.