11-02-2008, 12:18 PM
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#1 | | Off-Road Toyota
Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 104
| 2 Delays at Once Hey Guys,
I'm in the market for a new delay pedal, I play in a young adult praise and worship group at my church. I am pretty much sold on the Boss DD-20, however I was curious to know if you guys have experience in running two delays at one time. I wouldn't mind pairing up a DD-6 of DD-7 with the DD-20. I'm just curious if the sound would get to muddy or the two delays would "compete" with one another.
If two delays wouldn't work maybe a reverb pedal like the RV-5 would help at texture to the sound. Thanks Guys!
JF
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11-02-2008, 12:39 PM
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#2 | | 1 John 4:17
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| I played around a bit with layering delays, I couldn't get it to work the way I wanted though. The edge uses at least 2 delays, maybe more. Nigel from Hillsong uses a layered effect, but he uses a rack delay that can do that kind of thing. Basically, if you try 2 delays, make suer they both have tap tempo. Get them at the same tempo, and try running a dotted 8th on top of a 1/4 note for a start. You'll probably have to play with the repeats a bit, but it sounds good if you get it right.
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11-02-2008, 05:32 PM
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#3 | | Algebraic! | I have used a DD-5 (tap tempo delay) with a Danelectro PB&J (analog-voiced digital, no tap tempo) with success. The big thing that I found was helpful was to just try it out. You can get some very interesting sounds, some much more useful than others. |
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11-02-2008, 07:06 PM
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#4 | | I play Guitar...
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 4,035
| If it's done well, then dual delays can be pretty cool. I do it a lot with my TC Electronics Nova Delay (which can do dual delays on it's own). It is easy to muddy the sound though, so you have to know what you're doing, and know when to turn them off.
And (shameless plug here...) if you do want a DD-20, I'm selling mine (mint condition) with tap tempo for $180. Just PM me if you're interested.
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11-03-2008, 06:00 AM
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#5 | | Off-Road Toyota
Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 104
| Quote:
Originally Posted by PianoMan And (shameless plug here...) if you do want a DD-20, I'm selling mine (mint condition) with tap tempo for $180. Just PM me if you're interested.  | Well, I thought I wanted the DD-20, then I went to the guitar shop and the guy showed me the TC Nova Delay, which looks very tempting. It sounded so much better than the DD-20. The analog setting on the Nova Delay sounded amazing. Thanks for the offer though!
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11-13-2008, 04:09 PM
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#6 | | Registered User
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| my experience with multiple delays hey man, i love your idea of running 2 delays simultaneously. I actually was trying to find out information so i could do the same thing about a year ago (for christmas). I already had a Line6 DL4 and was looking for another delay to add to my board. The Line6 is a great delay pedal for a lot of people. It's great for church because you have 3 presets that you can pull up instantly plus a tap tempo. I've had friends with DD-20s and love them. I've wanted one myself actually, but i have what i need. I ended up getting a DD-5 with an extended tap. A lot of christian artists use them. A lot of people say they're hard to find, but if you do enough searching on ebay, gbase, or other online sites you'll be able to find one. I love the combination. There are so many great delay pedals out there though. i do recommend having a tap tempo on them, unless you're going to be playing the same tempo throughout the night (which i hope is not the case haha). Unless you have something that has a ton of preset options and can pull them up within 5 seconds or less.
If I personally was looking for another delay pedal I'd look at these:
TC Electronic ND-1, any T-Rex delay (Replica, Reptile, etc.), TC Electronic Vintage Delay, Eventite Time Factor delay, and of course the DD-20, DL4 (and DL4 Keeley Mod), and DD-5
There's a lot of great options out there, hope you find what you're looking for! |
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11-15-2008, 01:44 AM
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#7 | | Registered User
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 35
| if I had to choose now, I might go with a nova delay, but the DD20 has been the only pedal that I've never regretted getting nor thought of getting rid of...
I have an M13 for most of my delays (I set it up like Nigel from Hillsong, one half-note analog and a regular digital triplet for the "galloping" effect)... but the DD20 has what I need as far as dotted eights, etc. when I don't need the extra layer...
before I had the M13, I had a DD7 (basically the DD5 on steroids)... and I used a stereo splitter to control the tap tempo on the DD20 and DD7 with one switch.. it wasn't exactly on time, but it was close enough. I just couldn't justify keeping the DD7 just for that.. ntm I think the tap on mine was a little off... never could get the DD7 to tap in right for "The Time Has Come"'s intro...
Still, running multiple delays is great.. set the level and feedback appropriately and try to run them in parallel (so they don't delay the delays..if you catch my drift)... it's a fun deal. Once you use more than one you'll never go back to just one... at least I don't plan to...
FWIW, the RV-5 is great (esp. Modulation Mode) |
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11-20-2008, 09:57 PM
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#8 | | Registered User
Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 286
| Depending on the type of sound you are looking for... you may want to check out the Line 6 Echo Park. I was skeptical at first... but it's a very good pedal for the price. It's got a couple different 'multi-delay' settings that sound pretty cool. It's got a tap-tempo as well. |
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05-18-2009, 03:16 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 16
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam B I played around a bit with layering delays, I couldn't get it to work the way I wanted though. The edge uses at least 2 delays, maybe more. Nigel from Hillsong uses a layered effect, but he uses a rack delay that can do that kind of thing. Basically, if you try 2 delays, make suer they both have tap tempo. Get them at the same tempo, and try running a dotted 8th on top of a 1/4 note for a start. You'll probably have to play with the repeats a bit, but it sounds good if you get it right. | I know I 'm late in the conversation - but how do you get the guitar signal to two pedals? Some kind of splitter? Do you then run the delays to two amps? |
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05-18-2009, 04:04 PM
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#10 | | WELL FOR WILLING PARTY
Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,287
| You can run them in stereo to two amps, however, I just run one delay pedal into the next in my chain so it would look like this Guitar> TC Electronics Nova Delay> Boss DD-6 Digital Delay> Amp |
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