[Tom Waits]

the problem that nobody wants to put out there is that you'll probably never get busted, and worse they can only do something if youre uploading or bootlegging them on the street somewhere


and people wonder why band tshirts are so expensive

[Art]

Originally Posted by Tom Waits

...they can only do something if youre uploading or bootlegging them on the street somewhere

Where did you get this idea? The actual downloading is also illegal, so I am fairly sure that they can, in fact, do something.

[Tom Waits]

Originally Posted by Art

Where did you get this idea?

the internet.


i believe that there is a technicality that allows it somewhere, but im not 100% sure

[Art]

Originally Posted by Tom Waits

the internet.


i believe that there is a technicality that allows it somewhere, but im not 100% sure

A Technicality? I would love to see a source on this.

[Tom Waits]

im not a man with many answers, mate

[Art]

As a general rule, if you can't back it up, please do not post it as fact.

[scared2mosh]

I cant remember what everyone's opinion on this was... is it legal to torrent a movie you already own so that you can have it on your computer?

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by scared2mosh

I cant remember what everyone's opinion on this was... is it legal to torrent a movie you already own so that you can have it on your computer?

No opinion here.

Could theoretically get you sued for copyright violations.

Not really unethical, but illegal.

[scared2mosh]

so basically it's illegal just because of the principal? that blows chunks.

[dtaylorl]

Normajean, as a fellow Canadian I was wondering if you know if its legal to decrypt DVDs in Canada?

As far as the music goes, I hate Canada's laws. I believe that copying other people's copyrighted music is immoral so I don't do it. But I still have to pay a hidden tax or royalty on blank cds, etc. Essentially I do the right thing but get punished for the actions of those who don't.

[Gustin]

Originally Posted by dtaylorl

As far as the music goes, I hate Canada's laws. I believe that copying other people's copyrighted music is immoral so I don't do it. But I still have to pay a hidden tax or royalty on blank cds, etc. Essentially I do the right thing but get punished for the actions of those who don't.

This is the fundamental flaw of DRM and other such "protective" measures. They do little to defer the pirates and only end up hurting those who legally obtain the content.

[earlessdog]

Well, i've always strongly stood against copywriting and streaming music from torrents and whatnot. I greatly criticized everyone I knew that did it, resulting in a friend of mine deleting about 50 gigs of music, just from the guilt trip I kept laying on him.
Recently (about a month ago) I came to the point where I was so tight on cash that I couldn't afford to purchase all the music on my list, and the list is always growing. So, against my moral standards, I decided to download a torrent program so I could download several albums for free, to ease up on my spending.
I have downloaded three different programs, including Limewire, and I have not been able to find the albums I originally downloaded them for in the first place.
So now I feel ashamed and I deleted two of the programs and there won't be anymore of this ripping off the bands I support deal. I think I might keep Limewire, I like the idea of downloading a song by a band to check them out to see if I want to buy an album or not. But if I compromise that plan whatsoever, its the trash bin for Limewire.

[dtaylorl]

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

But the thing is this. No company is going to go after you for quietly breaking their encryption to legally use their product and not illegaly share. I do not share. Now, I might loan a friend media for say Office 2007 if he bought a license with valid key and activation code, with a no-media copy. (available routinely for sale to students) Microsoft assumes that is being done and under the law, THAT, is legal, or at least permissible to the point of nobody cares. (and I did just that last week, but I asked to see his license first, to make sure we were both engaging in legal behaviors.)

So if I have a valid key for Windows XP but no disc, is it legal/possible to torrent it and do an install?

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by dtaylorl

So if I have a valid key for Windows XP but no disc, is it legal/possible to torrent it and do an install?

I would borrow the cd from a friend. Legal, and no hidden issues.

That is actually a far greyer area than a movie, since it could be argued to be a backup from the original, and since you own the license for the form of media you are downloading. Still wouldn't do it though.

[corporate]

Originally Posted by earlessdog

Well, i've always strongly stood against copywriting and streaming music from torrents and whatnot. I greatly criticized everyone I knew that did it, resulting in a friend of mine deleting about 50 gigs of music, just from the guilt trip I kept laying on him.
Recently (about a month ago) I came to the point where I was so tight on cash that I couldn't afford to purchase all the music on my list, and the list is always growing. So, against my moral standards, I decided to download a torrent program so I could download several albums for free, to ease up on my spending.
I have downloaded three different programs, including Limewire, and I have not been able to find the albums I originally downloaded them for in the first place.
So now I feel ashamed and I deleted two of the programs and there won't be anymore of this ripping off the bands I support deal. I think I might keep Limewire, I like the idea of downloading a song by a band to check them out to see if I want to buy an album or not. But if I compromise that plan whatsoever, its the trash bin for Limewire.

Limewire is rubbish, specially if you want full albums. And can you open torrents in Limewire? You can with Frostwire, though. You could check out individual songs in sites like last.fm or something. Even Youtube.