[taykey]

Originally Posted by TFK14

does is make it wrong??

if it's not right, then it's wrong. there is no grey with these things.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by taykey

if it's not right, then it's wrong. there is no grey with these things.

wrong, There is grey. And lots of it.

Example: I can't find my AOE III Asian Dynasties disc. I hold a license. I cannot find my media. Wrong to copy? I plan on burning a replacement copy of my BIL's disc this Christmastime and installing it with my own cd key. If I could torrent it without legal risk, I might. I have paid for it.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by TFK14

alright, so If I put some of my music on torrents, it would be legal??

Music you wrote and performed? Sure! Music you purchased on a cd? NO! You do not hold the copyright.

[taykey]

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

wrong, There is grey. And lots of it.

ok. like...




edit: i didn't understand that... but nvm.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by taykey

ok. like...

see above. I edited my post to have an actual example. I also during the 90s sometimes used limewire to replace damaged copies of licensed programs at work. Wrong? Is it ethically wrong to download a song if you own the disc, but it got scratched?

[Cam42]

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

Music you wrote and performed? Sure! Music you purchased on a cd? NO! You do not hold the copyright.

what if I posted music I covered?

[Art]

Originally Posted by TFK14

what if I posted music I covered?

You would owe fees to the original artist for public performance of their art.

[normajean777]

Originally Posted by taykey

if it's not right, then it's wrong. there is no grey with these things.

The Bible does not explicitly say that it is morally ok to drive cars. So it must be wrong.. . .

Mainly with our innocent until proven guilty culture, it is right if there is nothing stopping it.

Also as I understand people have been charged and made example of for uploading torrents and sharing the files, not downloading the files. Basically the US government would rather attempt to reach the source, not the millions of people at the end of the line.

[Rainer.]

Originally Posted by Art

You would owe fees to the original artist for public performance of their art.

Unless you gain explicit permission from the copyright holder.

[taykey]

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

see above. I edited my post to have an actual example. I also during the 90s sometimes used limewire to replace damaged copies of licensed programs at work. Wrong? Is it ethically wrong to download a song if you own the disc, but it got scratched?

oh... good point.

Originally Posted by normajean777

The Bible does not explicitly say that it is morally ok to drive cars. So it must be wrong.. . .

Mainly with our innocent until proven guilty culture, it is right if there is nothing stopping it.

Also as I understand people have been charged and made example of for uploading torrents and sharing the files, not downloading the files. Basically the US government would rather attempt to reach the source, not the millions of people at the end of the line.

ok ok.

[Art]

Originally Posted by Reign Or Jon.

Unless you gain explicit permission from the copyright holder.

Right.

[scared2mosh]

Well whether it's right or wrong aside. if I had to guess the Feds are only going to go after people who download hundreds of Gigs of music, movies, games etc
then sells it for thier own game

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

wrong, There is grey. And lots of it.

Example: I can't find my AOE III Asian Dynasties disc. I hold a license. I cannot find my media. Wrong to copy? I plan on burning a replacement copy of my BIL's disc this Christmastime and installing it with my own cd key. If I could torrent it without legal risk, I might. I have paid for it.

so would it be ok to get torrents of movies you own so you can put it on your ipod?

also itunes alows you to sync your ipod to multiple compys. (my freinds have filled thieir ipods in said manner) is that considered the same as borowing a cd

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by scared2mosh

Well whether it's right or wrong aside. if I had to guess the Feds are only going to go after people who download hundreds of Gigs of music, movies, games etc
then sells it for thier own game


so would it be ok to get torrents of movies you own so you can put it on your ipod?

also itunes alows you to sync your ipod to multiple compys. (my freinds have filled thieir ipods in said manner) is that considered the same as borowing a cd

Legally, No. Now if you own the movie and put it on your ipod, I am not sure how the law goes. But I know that the law is really weird. I think if you ripped it into an ipod friendly format, that would probably fall under fair use, but... just to be explicitly clear, the feds have targeted people for downloading 1 stinking song before. Movie studios are more aggressive yet. Whether it is ethical or legal does not mean it is safe. For uncopyrighted things or GPL stuff it is cool. However, with the state of the way these things are handled, I would not download anything piratable, unless you feel like you want to be sued into oblivion and have a wish to spend the next few years in litigation.

Hence, why I am waiting till my brother in law comes back to burn a copy of his disc.

Filling other peoples ipods is the same as burning a cd.

[scared2mosh]

so burning a disc to your ipod is legal? I've tried that before, but discs are encrypted and decryption software is illegal in America.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by scared2mosh

so burning a disc to your ipod is legal? I've tried that before, but discs are encrypted and decryption software is illegal in America.

Burning a disc to your ipod?!?! How would you even do that. Ipods do not have cd drives! I am confused. And decryption software is not illegal... I have no clue what you are talking about.