Go Back   Christian Guitar Forum > Community > Academic > Government & Economics
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-24-2008, 06:51 PM   #1
likes pleasant suprises
 
smhatahy's Avatar
 

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,194
Vote Pact

http://www.votepact.org/about/

So here's how it works, ussually when you vote 3rd party, you are essentially just taking away votes from either the Democrats or Republicans. The basic jist of this program is that a Republican voter who is switching to a third-party candidate will make a pact with a Democrat voter switching to 3rd party that way you aren't taking votes away from only one party but equally. I think it's a cool idea, and if anything it may persuade more people on the fence to vote for a third party.

smhatahy is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 09-25-2008, 07:32 AM   #2
Fabulous!
 
Bryan's Avatar
 

Joined: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 15,838
paid
Send a message via Yahoo to Bryan Send a message via Skype™ to Bryan
People should vote for who they think will be the best President, not negotiate their vote with someone else.
__________________
It's Time
Bryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:48 PM   #3
Unto Us A Child Is Born
 
Epaphras's Avatar
 

Joined: May 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 3,765
This is like the classic "Prisoner's Dilemma". Two suspects are seperated and interrogated by police. If both keep quiet, they will both get off with a warning. If one implicates the other and the other keeps quiet, the snitch will go free and the other will go to jail for a year. If both implicate the other, both go to jail for a year. The point is: most people wouldn't trust that the other will keep quiet, so they snitch to cover their own butt. But when both do this, neither ends up with what they want.

All this to say: there is no telling that one side won't back out of the deal in the voting booth, leaving us where it stands today.
__________________
Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ Jesus, greets you,
always struggling on your behalf in his prayers,
that you may stand mature and fully assured
in all the will of God.
--Colossians 4:12 ESV

"Christianity without discipleship is always Christianity without Christ"
--Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Epaphras is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:51 PM   #4
likes pleasant suprises
 
smhatahy's Avatar
 

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,194
Quote:
All this to say: there is no telling that one side won't back out of the deal in the voting booth, leaving us where it stands today.
Using absentee votes works.
smhatahy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 03:09 PM   #5
OOOO
 
slap_j's Avatar
 

Joined: Nov 2002
Location: the U.S.
Posts: 20,568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
People should vote for who they think will be the best President, not negotiate their vote with someone else.
Besides, if a handful (third party voters) of "popular" votes mattered all that much then Al Gore would've been prez in Jan of '01.
__________________

A d A s t r a P e r A l a s P o r c i
slap_j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 04:28 PM   #6
Puts the sexy in dyslexia
 
Dr. Worm's Avatar
 

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akshay View Post
http://www.votepact.org/about/

So here's how it works, ussually when you vote 3rd party, you are essentially just taking away votes from either the Democrats or Republicans. The basic jist of this program is that a Republican voter who is switching to a third-party candidate will make a pact with a Democrat voter switching to 3rd party that way you aren't taking votes away from only one party but equally. I think it's a cool idea, and if anything it may persuade more people on the fence to vote for a third party.
But living in a battleground state, my vote is worth far, far more than someone from, say, Alabama or California.
Dr. Worm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
Real candidate of change
 
JerryLove's Avatar
 

Joined: Sep 2001
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 17,259
Send a message via AIM to JerryLove
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
People should vote for who they think will be the best President, not negotiate their vote with someone else.
That's how the loosing party thinks
JerryLove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 06:10 PM   #8
Moderator
 
Sean's Avatar
 

Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 22,656
Send a message via AIM to Sean Send a message via MSN to Sean
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
People should vote for who they think will be the best President, not negotiate their vote with someone else.
But there's more to it than simply voting for who you think is best. Sure you want your favorite in office, but you also don't want to put your least favorite in office by voting for your favorite. Sometimes you vote to support your favorite and other times you have to vote to go against some you strongly oppose.
__________________
Me Online:

seanchandler.net * Facebook

My Music:

Exchange Worship

My Ministry

My Student Ministry
Sean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 06:35 PM   #9
OOOO
 
slap_j's Avatar
 

Joined: Nov 2002
Location: the U.S.
Posts: 20,568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
But there's more to it than simply voting for who you think is best. Sure you want your favorite in office, but you also don't want to put your least favorite in office by voting for your favorite. Sometimes you vote to support your favorite and other times you have to vote to go against some you strongly oppose.
Implicit in that strategy is that the two major parties have a monopoly on legitimate votes. That is, any other vote is a waste. It's like some meta rule. We have a democracy--vote for who you like...as long as it's this guy or this guy.
__________________

A d A s t r a P e r A l a s P o r c i
slap_j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 07:39 PM   #10
Guitar Player...
 
dtaylorl's Avatar
 

Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,121
I think its a great idea in making it a viable option to vote for someone thats not from one of the two main parties... I myself am Canadian and Albertan... I think a pact like this could have worked well in our last provincial election.
__________________
Links
Dropbox

Gear
Art & Lutherie Spruce with Quantum I Electronics
Agile AL-3100 -> GFT-90 Pedal Tuner -> SBN BDAB -> Danelectro Cool Cat Drive (OCD Clone) -> Boss DD-7 w/ homemade tap tempo -> Garnet Gnome
dtaylorl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 08:12 PM   #11
Moderator
 
Sean's Avatar
 

Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 22,656
Send a message via AIM to Sean Send a message via MSN to Sean
Quote:
Originally Posted by slap_j View Post
Implicit in that strategy is that the two major parties have a monopoly on legitimate votes. That is, any other vote is a waste. It's like some meta rule. We have a democracy--vote for who you like...as long as it's this guy or this guy.
Exactly
__________________
Me Online:

seanchandler.net * Facebook

My Music:

Exchange Worship

My Ministry

My Student Ministry
Sean is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:51 PM.