underrated bass players..

Ashleigh · 09-22-2008, 05:13 PM

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Can't remember what brand it is though, maybe a Warrior?

MTD I thought, but i could be wrong.

The bass player for Bedouin Soundclash, Eon Sinclair has very good creative, solid basslines & I think he's pretty underrated, of course i dont know how well known the band is outside of Canada.

lespaul59 · 10-08-2008, 03:24 AM

How about Dusty Hill from ZZ Top? Leon Wilkenson from Lynyrd Skynyrd, just listen to some of the bass lines in a Skynyrd song, or even check out the Lynyrd Skynyrd bass tab book if you know somebody who owns one. And I think you could argue that Cliff Burton is underrated to the mainstrem music crowd. I'm to a lot of people he is nothing more than Metallica's first bass player that was killed in a bus crash. But to see how this guy played with out a pick is mind blowing, I mean how many bass players can play 32nd notes with their fingers.

telecasting · 10-11-2008, 05:59 AM

James Jamerson. Oh man. That guy rules.

Lizooki · 10-11-2008, 05:48 PM

Gene Simmons is the most over rated, 4 string plunkin', make up wearin' hack of a bassist that ever was. Thats why he worked so well with the rest of the cretins.
Even so they still made a bunch of money on hype....they really delivered on the hype.
They were never about music......pure commercialism that just happened to include music.
I am on other forums w/ pro musicians and that is the general consensus.

And that probably wasn't him playing......usually he only played on stage.

Matt

btw- I'm the most under rated bassist I know.

taiko · 10-11-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by telecasting

James Jamerson. Oh man. That guy rules.

But underrated? He is the standard that all bassist in pop genres are judged against.

Perhaps outside of folks like us He is unknown. Outside of the musicians community since he was not the frontman, featured soloist or part of a touring supergroup. Just a studio musician who the general public didn't know so I guess underated by them.

Micahb · 10-11-2008, 10:28 PM

I wouldn't say Gene Simmons is an over-rated player...until I saw it here I have never heard him praised as a bassist (altho I do enjoy him).

I really think Justin Meldal-Johnson is underrated. I have heard his name thrown around lots lately, which is great, but until he got picked up by Reznor, I had never heard his name. Since then, I looked him up and was surprised to know that I already loved his playing and sound, but just didn't know who it was.

I think (and read on before you disagree) that James Jamerson is really under-rated. Yes, he is very well known now-a-days among lots of people, but nobody I know around my age (of 19) who aren't bass players don't know who he is. Even among bass players my age I am surprised at how many don't know who he is.

lespaul59 · 10-12-2008, 08:34 PM

Well Gene didn't always play bass in the studio, Bruce Kulick and Paul Stanley have been listed as playing bass in the studio. I know for sure that Paul played bass on the song Love Gun, but if I'm thinking about the right song Gene played guitar. Personaly I agree that Gene is underrated as a bass player, he might not be great but he's on the same leveal as some of the really great players either.

Iceman-bass14 · 10-13-2008, 06:19 AM

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How about Dusty Hill from ZZ Top?

I definitely would not call him underrated,at least not to me.I give him his dues cause he is pretty awesome.Not to mention those flippin' sweet basses he plays.

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Gene Simmons is the most over rated, 4 string plunkin', make up wearin' hack of a bassist that ever was. Thats why he worked so well with the rest of the cretins.
Even so they still made a bunch of money on hype....they really delivered on the hype.
They were never about music......pure commercialism that just happened to include music.
I am on other forums w/ pro musicians and that is the general consensus.

Bigger hack than him-Pete from Fall Out Boy.

Im not sure about underrated,but someone I have long left off my favorite bassist's list and definitely shouldve added him-Tai Anderson.Always seems to get it right,no matter what song.

Micahb · 10-13-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman-bass14

Bigger hack than him-Pete from Fall Out Boy.

Are you just ripping on Pete because it is fashionable or can you backup this?
I used to rip on him because, as a whole, I don't like the band and he is an easy target, but after forcing myself to listen to them I actually think he is pretty good.

thesteve · 10-13-2008, 10:16 AM

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Are you just ripping on Pete because it is fashionable or can you backup this?
I used to rip on him because, as a whole, I don't like the band and he is an easy target, but after forcing myself to listen to them I actually think he is pretty good.

There's a lot of people that believe that many of the bass parts in FOB songs aren't just written by Patrick Stump, but are also played by him on the albums, and that Pete Wentz doesn't write his own bass parts because he's musically inept. I don't think it helped that at the time when those stories started to circulate, FOB was mostly known for showing up to a gig, getting drunk and playing a terrible show.

I do think that FOB's reputation with much of the "scenester" community went downhill after the success of "Sugar, We're Going Down". I definitely recall them being held in a quite favorable light by the indie rocker crowd when the first hit the scene in 2002/2003.

Micahb · 10-13-2008, 10:39 AM

Ah - I didn't realize. It was my understanding that he wrote and played his parts. If that's true, then I agree.

**slap_j** · 10-13-2008, 10:47 AM

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Ah - I didn't realize. It was my understanding that he wrote and played his parts. If that's true, then I agree.

It's possible that Patrick is just a control freak.

thesteve · 10-13-2008, 11:15 AM

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Ah - I didn't realize. It was my understanding that he wrote and played his parts. If that's true, then I agree.

I have no idea how much truth is behind it. I've tried to source it before and only found discussions on how bad he was live.

Iceman-bass14 · 10-13-2008, 02:38 PM

Before I explain I enjoy the odd Fall Out Boy song every now and then,they have a few good ones.

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Are you just ripping on Pete because it is fashionable or can you backup this?

I back it up with my dislike of his live stuff.I do not know if that is him on the albums or not and that stuff sounds decent,but what I've heard of him live just sucked to me.Maybe its just personal preference,but I think his live stuff is terrible.

moosebass · 12-08-2008, 04:31 PM

OK, how about Roger Waters?
I was just listening to Dark Side of the Moon, and was impressed at his playing; simple, but in the pocket.

In a similar vein, Jessie Reeves from Chris Tomlin's band.