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Unread 01-01-2003, 04:33 PM   #76
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metallica has really good guitar riffs, very skilled :P i tried to play fade to black guitar parts.. i got someof them.. but the very end is like CRZY playing.. amzing stuf. yet they sing about death etc. which i dislike. but i admire their guitar parts.
:klol:

Think Metallica's hard? Try to play Megadeth's Take No Prisoners.

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Unread 01-01-2003, 04:37 PM   #77
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Think Metallica's hard? Try to play Megadeth's Take No Prisoners.
No, try playing Jason Becker's Air.
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Unread 01-01-2003, 04:39 PM   #78
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No, try playing Jason Becker's Air.
really? i'll d/l that song..
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Unread 01-01-2003, 04:42 PM   #79
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No, try playing Liquid Tension Experiment's Paradigm Shift.

:klol: or try to play Steve Vai's part in Fire Strings, previously dubbed impossible until the master himself stepped up to the plate.
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Just to see if there's more behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel,
Eyes of a tragedy...

A-ramble on, and now's the time, the time is now
Sing my song, I'm goin' 'round the world, I gotta find my girl
On my way, I've been this way ten years to the day
Ramble on, gotta find the queen of all my dreams...

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Unread 01-01-2003, 07:10 PM   #80
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No, try playing Liquid Tension Experiment's Paradigm Shift.

:klol: or try to play Steve Vai's part in Fire Strings, previously dubbed impossible until the master himself stepped up to the plate.
ooooo.. cool :kcool:
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Unread 01-01-2003, 07:40 PM   #81
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Radio-friendly means sacrificing the music for commercialism
So Irving Berlin's music had the life sucked out of them? He wrote pop, and was one of the best songwriters ever.

The Beatles had no life?

This argument doesn't hold up.....
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So Irving Berlin's music had the life sucked out of them? He wrote pop, and was one of the best songwriters ever.

The Beatles had no life?

This argument doesn't hold up.....
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Radio-friendly can mean that music is sacrificed for commercialism. Music must meet certian criteria for it to be radio friendly and that either means writing within the bounds of those criteria or editing down youre music to fit the criteria.

Pop = popular, not radio friendly.
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there good. i just can't seem to get the folks hip to them. and that means i don't buy there album and if that happens i can't learn the tight riffs.

For Whom the Bell Tolls RAWKs


but i don't really like load
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Unread 01-01-2003, 11:24 PM   #84
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there good. i just can't seem to get the folks hip to them. and that means i don't buy there album and if that happens i can't learn the tight riffs.

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but i don't really like load
I completely agree. except my parents don't care

For Whom The Bell Tolls, although it's their simplest song, is my favorite, and so much fun to play live! So much power behind those riffs.

And yeah, Load is a stinker. It does have a few good songs though, Outlaw Torn is amazing.
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Just to see if there's more behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel,
Eyes of a tragedy...

A-ramble on, and now's the time, the time is now
Sing my song, I'm goin' 'round the world, I gotta find my girl
On my way, I've been this way ten years to the day
Ramble on, gotta find the queen of all my dreams...

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Unread 01-01-2003, 11:42 PM   #85
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Personally I thought the first half of Load was excellent! The only problem was that after "Bleeding Me" the album just sorta dropped off into nothingness... at least IMO.
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Enter Sandman, Unforgiven 2, The Memory Remains, all really good songs.
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Well....

Metallica rock. The band that made me pick up the guitar. I'll say that all their albums are great. But..... I prefer to listen to RTL, MOP or AJFA. Much more interesting musically, but their later albums are still much better than a lot of other bands best stuff.

Plus with Black, Load and Reload Metallica showed they could write songs that we're quite different. And S&M is awesome.

And, while Kirk isn't the best guitarist in the world (That'd be Petrucci from DT IMHO), he's good enough. Probably in my top 8.

But then I like "We Did It Again", the track with Ja-Rule, so I may just be crazy. :kwhoa:
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It seems to me a lot of people equate quality with complexity. I really have never understood that. I was in a band once that covered old Metallica like Master of Puppets and stuff like that, I learned and could play it fine, no big deal, but the songs never really turned me on or anything. Enter Sandman on the other hand, tho simpler and more "radio-friendly" is a song that I really enjoy playing and listening to...

I have never understood the things like "they are great, the music is so complex" remarks...but hey, whatever rocks our worlds I guess...
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First, let's define 'complexity'. To me, complexity, technicality and aesthetics are three different factors.

Technicality is how hard is the song to play?

Aesthetics is how good does it sound?

Complexity is how many different parts does the song have/the instruments are not all doing the same thing...

That's how I view it. If anyone disagrees, speak up, just to make sure we're all on the same page.

Now, to me, if a band can have great aesthetics as well as complexity and technicality, that means they make good-sounding songs that don't get old, simply because there is so much going on and it still retains the aesthetics.
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Eyes of a tragedy...

A-ramble on, and now's the time, the time is now
Sing my song, I'm goin' 'round the world, I gotta find my girl
On my way, I've been this way ten years to the day
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Ya, I hear what you are saying, as a general statement I am saying it is difficult to play when I say "complex". And as an even more general statement this kind of attitude or thought process comes from people relatively new to playing, as many feel if they learn these "complex" songs it makes them appear to be very good at their craft and earn them respect of their peers. It seems as people grow in the business or as a musician all that seems very moot.

After almost 20 years in the business if anyone can play a complex piece of music (meaning difficult to play) it really doesn't say anything if said piece of music was written by someone else...at a certain stage of the game anyone can learn anything...

That is why I always kind of chuckly when I hear people talking about the hardest song they can play and things like that...what counts is if you can write good music and get an audience rockin out with ya. Not at what speed you fingers can be trained to move.

Anyway, that is my two cents...
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