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Unread 09-15-2008, 09:46 AM   #16
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Basically what I need this guitar to do is like Underoath style stuff like the chugga's and the wuggas and a lot of weird chord work that I like to be kinda chimey and then the Indie Rock kinda stuff. Then I need it for Praise and worship. Can Tele single coils handle the heavier stuff or do they feedback like crazy? Surely not worse than the fully hollow Gretsch?

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Basically what I need this guitar to do is like Underoath style stuff like the chugga's and the wuggas and a lot of weird chord work that I like to be kinda chimey and then the Indie Rock kinda stuff. Then I need it for Praise and worship. Can Tele single coils handle the heavier stuff or do they feedback like crazy? Surely not worse than the fully hollow Gretsch?
mine feed back like a banshee at high-hi gain.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 10:40 AM   #18
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mine feed back like a banshee at high-hi gain.
Don't you have un-waxed pickups or something though?
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Unread 09-15-2008, 11:00 AM   #19
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Basically what I need this guitar to do is like Underoath style stuff like the chugga's and the wuggas and a lot of weird chord work that I like to be kinda chimey and then the Indie Rock kinda stuff. Then I need it for Praise and worship. Can Tele single coils handle the heavier stuff or do they feedback like crazy? Surely not worse than the fully hollow Gretsch?
You really want something with humbuckers if your desire is to go chugga-jigga-wugga.

My old American Standard Tele was passable for a heavy rhythm guitar but it would not be my first choice for emulating Underoath-style music.
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Its not the main style I play and the chugga jigga wugga is usually just the Drop D style and my distortion is never that nasty....... Usually it's just on the dropped D string with Chords. I could do it pretty well on the SX SJM with P90's. Are normal single coils more prone to feedback with those?
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Oh I also like to play the blues also.....
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The general thing about single coils is that they'll sound a bit more twangy at high gain, and you'll lose some thickness on your tone. I use my Strat for hi-gain tones when I don't want to swap to my Les Paul, and it works pretty decently, but the Les Paul is much preferred at a gig where I'm doing that the whole time.
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Hmm so I guess I'm just screaming Humbuckers at you Guys? I do like humbuckers.... What do you guys think some good humbuckering options would be in the Gibson/Fender realms?
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Don't you have un-waxed pickups or something though?
yes, but even before that... still screamed like a banshee. at high volume, hi gain. Oddly, my p90s don't. YMMV. But when I mean hi gain, I mean hi gain. Now, a lot of it is actually technique in how you play that has a lot to do with feedback. I have gotten to where I can generally get by with the unpotted ones at high gain.

It sounds like Humbuckers or P90s are your ticket.

IMO from what you describe, a bfg setup sounds roughly ideal for you, P90 at the neck, humbucker at the bridge.
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I think they make a Studio BFG, for those who like the electronics on the BFG but not the looks. Also, there's an SG Classic which is dual P90s... Gibson seems to be the best bet here. I haven't played a Fender that couldn't handle Underoath, but it's hard to beat the classic Gibson roar.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 08:45 PM   #25
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You know I totally forgot about the Agile guitars from Rondo..........
One of their Higher end LP's could do the trick maybe. Hey check this out.
http://www.rondomusic.com/al3100spbk.html
What do you guys think about that one? I still have a bigsby Fetish and the Trapeze tailpiece would just come right off and make for no extra holes........
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You know I totally forgot about the Agile guitars from Rondo..........
One of their Higher end LP's could do the trick maybe. Hey check this out.
http://www.rondomusic.com/al3100spbk.html
What do you guys think about that one? I still have a bigsby Fetish and the Trapeze tailpiece would just come right off and make for no extra holes........
That might just work.. the bigsby should work.. I add one to my Hollowbody.. so yea.. if i can ill add pics.. it kinda hand the same bridge.
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I would really go with something more prone to last you a lifetime. For $50 more, you could on average get yourself a 2003 Melody Maker Les Paul which is the weapon of choice for a fair number of pros. It is not quite as fancy looking, but it has got it where it counts.

Honestly, the difference between a MIK guitar and an MIA is really pretty big often time in the feel.



This is just a pic I found of your standard one. Honestly, I believe its quite often the best deal in the bang for back.
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Basically what I need this guitar to do is like Underoath style stuff like the chugga's and the wuggas and a lot of weird chord work that I like to be kinda chimey and then the Indie Rock kinda stuff. Then I need it for Praise and worship. Can Tele single coils handle the heavier stuff or do they feedback like crazy? Surely not worse than the fully hollow Gretsch?
Don't count Tele's out of you want to play Underoath style stuff. If I remember correctly, James Smith used one for some of the TOCS album and tour.
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Don't count Tele's out of you want to play Underoath style stuff. If I remember correctly, James Smith used one for some of the TOCS album and tour.
Indeed, Underoath apparently seems to be armed with Telecasters.
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