Rene Descartes

**Jeffrey** · 05-13-2008, 12:06 PM

Geek.

Chrysostom · 05-15-2008, 09:57 AM

Oh I just owned so hard. Ouch!

Btw, I saw Hellboy on the TV the other night and it made me think of you.

AlphaSigma · 05-15-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrysostom

If Bruce Campbell were a Magic card, he would be better than a Black Lotus. No question.

I know magic cards, but I don't know Bruce Campbell, now I feel as if I should.

slap_j · 05-15-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSigma

I know magic cards, but I don't know Bruce Campbell, now I feel as if I should.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/

Start with "The Evil Dead."

AlphaSigma · 05-15-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slap_j

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/

Start with "The Evil Dead."

Oh I see,
Dr. Octavious from Spiderman 2, right?

Chrysostom · 05-15-2008, 04:41 PM

No, that's Alfred Molina. Bruce Campbell is the king of B-movie action. He's probably best-known as Ash in the Evil Dead trilogy (especially the 3rd, Army of Darkness). Sam Raimi directed both the Evil Dead trilogy and the Spider-Man trilogy, and because of his relationship with Evil Dead star Campbell (they met as children) gave Campbell cameos in the Spider-Man movies.

tlj009 · 05-15-2008, 04:45 PM

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Oh I see,
Dr. Octavious from Spiderman 2, right?

He was the guy that wouldn't let Peter Parker in the theater to watch Mary Jane.

And I guess that I am the only one who liked Brisco Count Jr.

AlphaSigma · 05-16-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tlj009

He was the guy that wouldn't let Peter Parker in the theater to watch Mary Jane.

And I guess that I am the only one who liked Brisco Count Jr.

Ah! I see; I was way off.

Chrysostom · 05-16-2008, 07:56 AM

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And I guess that I am the only one who liked Brisco Count Jr.

Oh, nice call. Also part of the early work of Lost guru Carlton Cuse. Well, other than Nash Bridges. Ha, Nash Bridges.

Didn't they just release Brisco County on DVD?

tlj009 · 05-16-2008, 11:15 AM

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Oh, nice call. Also part of the early work of Lost guru Carlton Cuse. Well, other than Nash Bridges. Ha, Nash Bridges.

Didn't they just release Brisco County on DVD?

Since you mentioned it, I looked it up. Apparently it was released in 2006. I would like to get it and I am debating about whether or not it is worth the $80 price tag. In the end, I probably won't get it simply because I am cheap.

Chrysostom · 05-16-2008, 01:29 PM

It's all about ebay.

$37

$34

(Both prices after shipping)

AlphaSigma · 05-16-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrysostom

It's all about ebay.

$37

$34

(Both prices after shipping)

still not worth it.

**Jeffrey** · 05-16-2008, 01:45 PM

So...Descartes...

**Skeeter** · 05-16-2008, 01:52 PM

Wow...that got off-topic lately. But, because it was about Bruce Campbell, I'll let it go.

Back to Descartes.

Chrysostom · 05-19-2008, 07:10 AM

It's interesting to me that Descartes believes that the demon can deceive his senses because they connect to the external world, but apparently the demon can't keep him from reasoning properly. Ultimately I think this carries with it a very dichotomizing seal between Subject and Object. It's nice because it's necessary to get his rationalism out of its skeptical challenge, but by preventing this instance of causation (i.e., the demon messing up his thinking) he prevents all causation down the line, which was borne out in esp. Hume. (Spinoza and even Berkeley are very interesting here, as well.)

So is this where Deism came from? Was Deism trying to put causation together with the subject/object dichotomy, since (1) the Deity and World were Subject/Object distinct after that big clock got started, (2) the Deity was actually trustworthy, unlike the Cartesian Demon, and (3) once the clock gets going you don't need to breach the Subject/Object dichotomy to get causation? So, did the Deists need God to be the only one trustworthy enough to break the S/O dichotomy the one time necessary to square the circle and get causation off the ground? And if so, isn't that where the Problem of Evil came from, since they were looking for a trustworthy humanistic Deity to fulfill the need for Causation but after Lisbon they weren't so sure how trustworthy that Deity's humanist credentials were?