05-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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#1 | | Rawkin' for the Rock
Joined: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 53
| Cool thoughts on Relationships This is something I got a long time ago, and it really changed my thinking. It's sort of... a love letter from God to you. It's awesome. Enjoy. Dearly Beloved,
Everyone longs to give themselves completely to someone, to have a deep soul relationship with another, to be loved thoroughly and exclusively.
But I say, no, be patient. Not until you are satisfied and fulfilled and content with being alone, with gluing yourself totally and unreservedly to me, will you be ready to have the intensely personal and unique relationship that I have planned for you. You will never be united with another or anyone else exclusive of any other desires or longings.
I want you to stop planning, stop wishing, and allow me to give you the most thrilling plan existing, one that you cannot imagine. I want you to have the best. Please allow me to bring it to you. You just keep watching me, expecting the greatest things. Keep experiencing the satisfaction that I am. Keep listening and learning the things I tell you. Just wait, don't be anxious. Don't worry. Don't look around at the things others have got, or that I have given them. Don't look at the things you think you want. Just keep looking to me, or you will miss what I want to show you. And then, when you are ready, I will surprise you with a love far more wonderful than any you could dream of.
You see, until you are ready and until the one I have ready for you is ready, I am working even at this moment to have you both ready at the same time. Until you are both exclusively with me and the life I have prepared for you, you won't be able to experience the love that exemplified your relationship with me, and is thus perfect love.
And dear one, I want you to have this most wonderful love. I want to see in the flesh a picture of your relationship with me and to enjoy materially and concretely the everlasting union of beauty, perfection, and love that I offer you with Myself.
Know that I love you utterly. Believe it! And be satisfied.
For you with love,
Jesus |
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05-06-2008, 12:43 PM
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#2 | | Oh, so chickens DON'T fly
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| I like it
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05-06-2008, 04:03 PM
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#3 | | Look me in the eyes
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| Thanks for sharing. Its give people something to think about.
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05-06-2008, 10:19 PM
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#4 | | Be happy
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| I like "Pray to God, but row toward the shore."
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05-06-2008, 10:26 PM
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#5 | | I'm on a horse. Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle, WA. Posts: 26,972
| +1
I think it's natural of people to yearn to be somewhere that is better than their current position in life. Patience is also good, but I believe that God gives us desires for a reason, and denying that the feeling of longing for companionship diminishes the fact that it is something that is wonderful that so many of us get to share in. |
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05-07-2008, 12:12 AM
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#6 | | Registered User
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| what about people that dont have someone meant for them? not everyone is meant to be married...
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05-07-2008, 03:52 AM
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#7 | | is the storm of progress
Joined: May 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 432
| very true, I think the seeking God thing still applies to them though.
But I have noticed that many Christians seem to think that God has promised us a perfect match, that there is a "one" waiting for all of us.
God told Hosea to marry a prostitute.
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05-07-2008, 11:55 AM
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#8 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,720
| Singleness (split from "thoughts") i really fail to see too much scriptural basis for stuff like that. there is a place for contentment, but Scripture puts a lot of stuff out there. It never says, don't look. Scripture never says to be content with being alone though. In fact, God says it is not good for man to be alone. It is the only thing God created that he said was not good. Why would we call it good and be content with it if God says it was not good.
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05-07-2008, 12:17 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq i really fail to see too much scriptural basis for stuff like that. there is a place for contentment, but Scripture puts a lot of stuff out there. It never says, don't look. Scripture never says to be content with being alone though. In fact, God says it is not good for man to be alone. It is the only thing God created that he said was not good. Why would we call it good and be content with it if God says it was not good. | I wouldn't argue with your point--I think it's spot on. However there must be some exception Paul who that it was good for him to be dedicated to the gosple. I know a woman who does child evangelism who has been single her whole life--she's now in her 50s. But I'm sure this is not the norm.
On a lighter side
A man is not complete untill he is maried--then he's finished. |
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05-07-2008, 12:41 PM
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#10 | | Registered User
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i really fail to see too much scriptural basis for stuff like that. there is a place for contentment, but Scripture puts a lot of stuff out there. It never says, don't look. Scripture never says to be content with being alone though. In fact, God says it is not good for man to be alone. It is the only thing God created that he said was not good. Why would we call it good and be content with it if God says it was not good.
| God said that it was not good for man to be alone. So God formed all of the animals and brought them to Adam. It seems that God was bringing the animals to Adam to see if he would choose a suitable help meet and none was found. For that reason, I am not real sure that God was referring to Adam not having a mate as being "not good". It is probably important to know that when God decided to special make a help meet for Adam, he made woman and even established her as a mate since scripture says: Genesis 2[24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. |
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05-07-2008, 12:55 PM
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#11 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by tlj009 God said that it was not good for man to be alone. So God formed all of the animals and brought them to Adam. It seems that God was bringing the animals to Adam to see if he would choose a suitable help meet and none was found. For that reason, I am not real sure that God was referring to Adam not having a mate as being "not good". It is probably important to know that when God decided to special make a help meet for Adam, he made woman and even established her as a mate since scripture says: Genesis 2[24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. | that does not make sense...
1) God had already formed animals before adam, so your chronology is off.
2) Verse 18 is not chronological with 19. 19 is elaboration on 18.
3) God says it was not good. vs 20-21 show God's remedy, and it was a woman.
4) Vs 18 is clear. It isn't good for man to be alone, I will make him a woman.
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05-07-2008, 01:22 PM
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#12 | | Rawkin' for the Rock
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| 1 Corinthians 7: http://bibleresources.bible.com/pass...s+7&version=31
I'll agree, I'm a little iffy on the whole I have "one" person waiting for you. What I love is the part about gluing yourself totally and completely to God. That's the heart of what I'm driving at: whether you are to be married one day or not, develop a deep relationship God first and foremost.
As for the whole "perfect one for you" thing, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Because that is the one thing in the world that God cannot do. He cannot force someone to love. If he could, we'd be mindless robots. But he gave us free will. So lately I've been wondering, how, as the Christian circles seem to so adamently believe, can there be that one if God can't make you love them?
Please, please, PLEASE state your opinions kindly and in LOVE, and don't turn this into some raging debate. |
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05-07-2008, 01:23 PM
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#13 | | Registered User
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that does not make sense...
1) God had already formed animals before adam, so your chronology is off.
2) Verse 18 is not chronological with 19. 19 is elaboration on 18.
3) God says it was not good. vs 20-21 show God's remedy, and it was a woman.
4) Vs 18 is clear. It isn't good for man to be alone, I will make him a woman.
| 1 & 2. I didn't realize 19 didn't follow 18. I just see no reason why God couldn't have formed the animals for that specific purpose.
3) But in verse 20 it at least appears that the animals were considered in the search for a help meet. Otherwise why would it specifically mention that a help meet was not found?
4) Verse 18 does not say I will make a woman. It does say that it is not good for man to be alone. I am of the opinion that it would be good to not marry, like Paul says, but I don't think it is good to be alone. As long as you have friends and family, I don't think that you are alone even if you aren't married. Is there reason to think that alone would not have that meaning in the scriptures we referenced? And I do aknowledge that woman was made specifically to take care of the problem ... but I am not sure that her being a mate was absolutely necessary for Adam's alone problem. |
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05-07-2008, 01:32 PM
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#14 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,720
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Originally Posted by tlj009 1 & 2. I didn't realize 19 didn't follow 18. I just see no reason why God couldn't have formed the animals for that specific purpose.
3) But in verse 20 it at least appears that the animals were considered in the search for a help meet. Otherwise why would it specifically mention that a help meet was not found?
4) Verse 18 does not say I will make a woman. It does say that it is not good for man to be alone. I am of the opinion that it would be good to not marry, like Paul says, but I don't think it is good to be alone. As long as you have friends and family, I don't think that you are alone even if you aren't married. Is there reason to think that alone would not have that meaning in the scriptures we referenced? And I do aknowledge that woman was made specifically to take care of the problem ... but I am not sure that her being a mate was absolutely necessary for Adam's alone problem. | It says It is not good for man to be alone, I will make a helpmate fit for him.
In verse 20, it says that God had used Adam to name the animals, but there was no helper, it does not say whether God decided to see if he was compatible with a helper Capucin Monkey.
21 says God made a helper, the woman. It seems God thought that a mate was the only proper solution.
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05-07-2008, 01:48 PM
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#15 | | Registered User
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It says It is not good for man to be alone, I will make a helpmate fit for him.
In verse 20, it says that God had used Adam to name the animals, but there was no helper, it does not say whether God decided to see if he was compatible with a helper Capucin Monkey.
| It just doesn't make sense to me that naming animals would just happen to be thrown in the middle of God saying it is not good for man to be alone and actually creating woman. Quote: |
21 says God made a helper, the woman. It seems God thought that a mate was the only proper solution.
| Yes. I think that it is very clear that woman is the only proper solution. But I don't think that it is necessarily the only proper solution for Adam's problem of needing a helper. I guess what it amounts to is that I am not sure that "not good that the man should be alone" means that it is not good for man to not have a mate. I don't see how Paul's position on marriage would be acceptable if it was not good to remain single. |
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