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View Poll Results: Who are you planning to vote for? | |
DEMOCRAT: Hillary Rodham Clinton
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DEMOCRAT: Barack Obama
|    | 8 | 16.67% | |
REPUBLICAN: Mike Huckabee
|    | 10 | 20.83% | |
REPUBLICAN: John McCain
|    | 11 | 22.92% | |
REPUBLICAN: Ron Paul
|    | 14 | 29.17% | |
REPUBLICAN: Mitt Romney
|    | 1 | 2.08% | |
Undecided
|    | 2 | 4.17% | |
Not voting
|    | 2 | 4.17% |
02-07-2008, 01:45 PM
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#76 | | Oh, piffle.
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| And he did all that with a Democrat government to work with! |
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02-07-2008, 02:20 PM
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#77 | | OOOO
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Originally Posted by S.B.Nichols According to the polls, Americans aren't particularly happy with the Dems running the country either. | That's not what those polls address. What they address are the Bush administration and the 110th congress.
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02-07-2008, 02:33 PM
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#78 | | Algebraic!
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Originally Posted by slap_j That's not what those polls address. What they address are the Bush administration and the 110th congress. | I'm not sure what you mean by this...the 110th Congress is Democratic. Right now the Dems hold the majority in both the House and the Senate...though for what it's worth, that margin is almost uselessly slim. |
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02-07-2008, 02:48 PM
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#79 | | Registered User
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| Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems supporters of Huckabee Romney and possibly Paul would rather have either of those over Mccain. This may sound ignorant but isn't there a way that the supporters of the more conservative oriented politicians could, when the primaries are said and done, agree to transfer all the delagates to someone besides Mccain? I guess I'm just wondering what happens to all the states that mccain didn't win but the person they agreed upon has dropped out?
I guess in this instance it wouldn't matter because according to what I understand Mccain has more delegates than everyone else combined. |
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02-07-2008, 03:12 PM
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#80 | | OOOO
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Originally Posted by thesteve I'm not sure what you mean by this...the 110th Congress is Democratic. | It has a Democratic majority which has been pretty useless. But I don't see that as analogous to having a Democratic executive branch.
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02-07-2008, 03:19 PM
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#81 | | ...more machine than man.
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Originally Posted by CDBongo Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems supporters of Huckabee Romney and possibly Paul would rather have either of those over Mccain. This may sound ignorant but isn't there a way that the supporters of the more conservative oriented politicians could, when the primaries are said and done, agree to transfer all the delagates to someone besides Mccain? I guess I'm just wondering what happens to all the states that mccain didn't win but the person they agreed upon has dropped out? | Romney keeps his delegates at the convention. They still vote for him. He just likely won't get anymore (though, technically he could if he's still on the ballot in upcoming states). In his concession speech Romney more or less (though not directly) endorsed McCain for "the good of the country". He won't be interested in trying to steal the nomination at the convention. Quote:
Originally Posted by slap_j That's not what those polls address. What they address are the Bush administration and the 110th congress. | I couldn't find a poll that asked "Do republicans DESERVE to run the country?" (your opinion). This is close. Bush is the defacto leader of the repub party and the dems control the congress. The poll was only to show that people are equally unhappy with both parties running their respective branches of government.
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02-07-2008, 04:27 PM
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#82 | | OOOO
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Originally Posted by S.B.Nichols The poll was only to show that people are equally unhappy with both parties running their respective branches of government. | But the poll concerning congress doesn't specify anything about the Dems. As thesteve pointed out their majority is a very slim one. Besides, congress operates differently than the executive branch. There is no 1 to 1 analogy here.
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02-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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#83 | | ...more machine than man.
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Originally Posted by slap_j But the poll concerning congress doesn't specify anything about the Dems. As thesteve pointed out their majority is a very slim one. Besides, congress operates differently than the executive branch. There is no 1 to 1 analogy here. | A majority is a majority, no matter how small it is. Regardless, the dems are in control of congress, and that is the approval rating.
It's not a matter of what bills are coming up, its a matter of what they did with their power. Instead of making good on their 100 hour plan(which I was personally all for), they used their political power to slap the administration in the face...apparently that upset the people who voted for them under the campaign promises made to fix things.
(The sad thing is this is exactly what both Obama and Clinton say they will do with their first 100 days, investigate every decision made by the bush administration....change, pbth)
Ok, maybe it doesn't line up perfectly, like I said I couldn't find the "Who deserves to run the country poll"...I just found the poll that showed what people think about those who are running the country.
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Originally Posted by slap_j Besides, the Republican party doesn't deserve to run this nation anymore and most Americans agree. | The first part of your statement was an opinion, and the second is unfounded.
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02-07-2008, 04:59 PM
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#84 | | OOOO
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Originally Posted by S.B.Nichols A majority is a majority, no matter how small it is. Regardless, the dems are in control of congress, and that is the approval rating. | I still don't understand the relevance considering the context of this discussion (who should be in the white house). I've been well aware of the failures of the 110th congress. If anything the makeup of congress after the 2006 elections supports what I said. Quote: |
The first part of your statement was an opinion, and the second is unfounded.
| I'll invoke Colbert and say it came more from the gut than empirical inquiry. Will that be satisfactory, herr Nichols?
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