[hapa_angel]

Wow. Talk about a load of bricks being dropped on your head.

I, too, have to wonder about her ring being in the shop for so long. My husband made sure my ring already fit my finger by the time he proposed to me. And why didn't she say anything when you asked for her number or gave her the drink? Huh. Oh well, not your concern now. *shrug*


Major props for going in confidently and leaving with your dignity intact. Keep your head high; you did your best and you did well. The chips just fell where they did, and it wasn't your fault things ended up as they did. Kudos to you.

[mattbatt]

Originally Posted by TunerSteve

Matt, ask yourself this question: If she were engaged to YOU, how would you feel about her behavior in the last couple of months; regarding a male customer's obvious interest in her?

Rest assured that God has a better plan for you. I would hope the woman you eventually become engaged to, would tell any prospective suitors that she's blessed to be engaged to the most marvelous man. In fact, if she's happily engaged, I would expect it should've come up in conversation naturally.

Good luck!

Wow, thank you for that Steve! That is true.

You all have been extremely helpful and I have learned some valuable lessons, mainly about myself.
Number One: opening up, showing my fear, uncertainty and failure as well as success to my friends and to this board allowed me to see you all in a genuine sense. So, in many cases, in order to be shown genuineness one must be genuine. I have lived my life as a guy known for having bible answers and always giving advice. My friends know me for being bold in ministry and street witnessing and very, very opinionated. So when I asked for advice, it caught people off guard. And I realize one thing: I need to ask for advice more. And be more humble. I was really blessed to finally allow others to speak into my life instead of always trying to speak into other people's lives.

Number Two: God delights in every detail of our lives, and He showed up with me on this one. He showed me that part of being a man is using the gift of honesty, pursuit and transparency, even in hard circumstances. Even in awkward, silly circumstances. The circumstance, no matter how trivial, doesn't matter. God's principle remains true. Shying away or being fearful is not His Spirit.

Number Three: We may make our plans, but God determines our steps. And the outcome. As long as I seek Him, seek out His Word, seek advice from other brothers and sisters, I really have nothing to fear. In any decision. An outcome, whether I think is good or bad, isn't the point. The point is the walk and the relationship with my Father and others. I never considered this before. I have been worked up lately about many decisions: where to live, what to do for God, ministry, business. My concerns always center around whether I'd make the right decision for a good outcome, never about whether I'd just walk out the path God wants me to walk on. Imagine that! Maybe the best thing I can do in life is to just love God and people and say yes to Him. The outcome rests with God, and sometimes what we think is bad is actually His divine Grace!

[FastRedPonyCar]

Wow! Man that sucks to hear but I'm glad you got right back up, dusted yourself off and made a graceful exit!

I laughed really hard and didn't feel so bad about it after I read you took it light heartedly.

I guess what I would say an important thing of all this is that you have learned how to properly communicate with the opposite sex with confidence! Seems like a great life lesson God has showed you that will allow you to conquer the dating life and find that special someone!

[mattbatt]

ok, so some of my guy friends have heard this story like you all have. Well, one decided to go in and see her and after 5 times, he finally saw her today. Man, ya, so he goes straight up to her and her coworkers and starts asking her about me, what she thought, how I'd never dated a girl before, if she thought the whole thing was awkward, ect.!

It is sort of funny. And he's calling me while he's doing it. So they said not to give up, just not to go after her cause she's taken. That's all good. She said I'm a neat guy. I was doing fine going on with life until he does this!!

anyway

She says to my friend that the awkward part was me coming in and just standing around, not going straight up to talk to her. So just a heads up guys: be bold! Women see right through us and they don't want to see fear. Honestly, I did get better, but I think that was a real turn off. And the fact that she's engaged . . .

[AudioACanuck]

Man, you're my hero. I wish I could get the courage to do something like that.

[tigerfan88]

Originally Posted by mattbatt

She says to my friend that the awkward part was me coming in and just standing around, not going straight up to talk to her. So just a heads up guys: be bold! Women see right through us and they don't want to see fear. Honestly, I did get better, but I think that was a real turn off. And the fact that she's engaged . . .

Completely agree with this, from a woman's perspective. A guy that is interested in me, while being quite nice, seems to always just sort of nod his head/stand around and not say too much. I wish he were a lot more initiative, but I would assume he is shy just like I am. However, I definitely would be even happier if he talked my head off, even if it meant coming up with just random stuff to say. Silence is awkward, so if you like someone, don't be silent, or else it could potentially be a big turn off.

[bobthecockroach]

This is just a great thread, man. I think we've all learned a thing or two from reading. I almost feel like I should sticky it.

[Ordinary Sarah]

Originally Posted by Matt

So just a heads up guys: be bold! Women see right through us and they don't want to see fear.