Mike Huckabee

wjarmusch · 12-19-2007, 03:16 PM

Ok, so I see we have an extensive thread on Ron Paul, and quite a few of his supporters here.
How about Mike Huckabee (R)? He's got more of a chance of actually maybe getting a nomination, and seems to be the most openly Christian of the candidates I've read. What do you think?

**Chrysostom** · 12-19-2007, 03:41 PM

Look out for his Weapons Of Mass Instruction.

Jeffrey · 12-19-2007, 04:42 PM

Huckabee is far too liberal for my tastes. Not only does he have a history of increasing taxes, he also lies about it and plays to the Republican anti-tax mindset. The lie I'm thinking of is the documented one where he's claimed that the people of his state voted for a gas tax hike that he signed into law. Except, that tax was never on the ballot. The people had no way to vote for it. Yet he's tossed statistics around. Lies, not a good precedent for a guy who's committed not to raise taxes at the federal level. We saw how that worked for the first Bush.

His position on illegal immigration is also something I hope the Republican base hears. Whether he's right or wrong, he's out of step with many of his supporters that I know - supporting taxpayer-subsidized higher education for not only the children of immigrants but immigrants themselves. His logic of allowing this because these immigrants have to pay social security taxes due to the use of social security numbers they stole - it baffles me, and it's out of step with many Republicans.

Huckabee is more viable than Ron Paul because he represents the status quo. I'm not trying to just drop catchphrases there. If more Republicans would back a candidate that represents their views instead of just accepting the Party line, we would see change.

**Sean** · 12-19-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Huckabee is far too liberal for my tastes. Not only does he have a history of increasing taxes, he also lies about it and plays to the Republican anti-tax mindset. The lie I'm thinking of is the documented one where he's claimed that the people of his state voted for a gas tax hike that he signed into law. Except, that tax was never on the ballot. The people had no way to vote for it. Yet he's tossed statistics around. Lies, not a good precedent for a guy who's committed not to raise taxes at the federal level. We saw how that worked for the first Bush.

His position on illegal immigration is also something I hope the Republican base hears. Whether he's right or wrong, he's out of step with many of his supporters that I know - supporting taxpayer-subsidized higher education for not only the children of immigrants but immigrants themselves. His logic of allowing this because these immigrants have to pay social security taxes due to the use of social security numbers they stole - it baffles me, and it's out of step with many Republicans.

Huckabee is more viable than Ron Paul because he represents the status quo. I'm not trying to just drop catchphrases there. If more Republicans would back a candidate that represents their views instead of just accepting the Party line, we would see change.

But Jeffrey, CHUCK NORRIS endorses Huckabee!!!!!!!!!

Mattlock · 12-19-2007, 05:00 PM

I heard him claim that God chose him to be president? That's quite a hefty assertion.

**thesteve** · 12-19-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Huckabee is more viable than Ron Paul because he represents the status quo. I'm not trying to just drop catchphrases there. If more Republicans would back a candidate that represents their views instead of just accepting the Party line, we would see change.

This is huge Jeffrey...it's why Californians elected the Governator when a more conservative Republican could have taken the seat.

Bryan · 12-19-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

This is huge Jeffrey...it's why Californians elected the Governator when a more conservative Republican could have taken the seat.

no, they elected him because they wanted to have a govenator

**slap_j** · 12-19-2007, 06:10 PM

He's fiscally quasi-liberal with Christian ornamentation.

***Art*** · 12-19-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

no, they elected him because they wanted to have a govenator

Incorrect.

Jeffrey · 12-19-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

But Jeffrey, CHUCK NORRIS endorses Huckabee!!!!!!!!!

Ugggh, yeah, someone told me about that. UGGGGHH

What's next, Mitt Romney responding to points by John McCain with an "O RLY?" owl? The Internet memes should not be a part of the political process.

...unless Ron Paul's popularity is a net meme. If so, I change my mind.

ApparentlyNothing · 12-19-2007, 06:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj_okz7ZwI

Do I really need more? Ok.

http://www.motherjones.com/washingto...lism-book.html
http://senate.ontheissues.org/2008/M...ar_+_Peace.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hu...ne_DuMond_case

I think I'd rather have 4 more years of Bush than this guy. And that's saying a LOT.

**Sean** · 12-19-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Ugggh, yeah, someone told me about that. UGGGGHH

Huckabee was on Larry King on Monday, and they brought Chuck Norris on as a special guest. It was pretty bad.

***Art*** · 12-19-2007, 07:44 PM

I am not yet sure of who will get my vote, but I do know that it will not be this guy.

**Fandrew** · 12-19-2007, 08:23 PM

I am still undecided as to who will be getting my vote. If it goes to Huckabee, it will be because of the improvements I've witnessed in Arkansas while he was governor. True, I am not an Arkansas Resident, but I do live close enough to witness some of his changes.

**Chrysostom** · 12-19-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Huckabee is far too liberal for my tastes. Not only does he have a history of increasing taxes, he also lies about it and plays to the Republican anti-tax mindset. The lie I'm thinking of is the documented one where he's claimed that the people of his state voted for a gas tax hike that he signed into law. Except, that tax was never on the ballot. The people had no way to vote for it. Yet he's tossed statistics around. Lies, not a good precedent for a guy who's committed not to raise taxes at the federal level. We saw how that worked for the first Bush.

His position on illegal immigration is also something I hope the Republican base hears. Whether he's right or wrong, he's out of step with many of his supporters that I know - supporting taxpayer-subsidized higher education for not only the children of immigrants but immigrants themselves. His logic of allowing this because these immigrants have to pay social security taxes due to the use of social security numbers they stole - it baffles me, and it's out of step with many Republicans.

Huckabee is more viable than Ron Paul because he represents the status quo. I'm not trying to just drop catchphrases there. If more Republicans would back a candidate that represents their views instead of just accepting the Party line, we would see change.

I dunno. I think the fictional "War On Radical Fundamentalist Islam" is the top priority on the minds of most of the social-conservative types (even though that's not strictly a 'social' viewpoint, haha). And that's what Huckabee brings -- social conservative pedigree, committed to "Fight For Honor" against "Evil Heathen Muslims", decent speaker, some leadership ability, horrible puns. I mean, obviously he's bringing together the worst of all worlds -- faith in the State over here and over there and in your pants and in your thoughts -- but this is the kind of thing that the kinds of people who show up on primary polls in the South are looking for. It's really refreshing to hear him say that he doesn't like the blue/red dichotomy, but he's not going to help kill it.

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Originally Posted by ApparentlyNothing

http://www.motherjones.com/washingto...lism-book.html

I'm not so sure about this one. Anybody has the right to change his mind over the course of ten years. And I think the article itself slants both postures a bit.