[Bryan]

speaking of Huckabee, apparantly his foreign policy knowledge isn't that great.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/...oreign.policy/

[ApparentlyNothing]

Originally Posted by RawkforChrist

True he might not have the brightest opinions on certain issues
but at least he doesn't believe in legalized abortions
among other things......
he's probably gonna make some choices that we as the people don't agree with
(but who has done everything that everyone has agreed with?)

How can we have any faith in democracy if people vote for reasons like this? If people were more informed about candidates, the real political issues, and didn't vote based off of one or two issues that are primarily moral issues the government should stay out of anyways, then maybe we'd have intelligent presidents and our country wouldn't be going to heck.

[JerryLove]

True he might not have the brightest opinions on certain issues
but at least he doesn't believe in legalized abortions
among other things......
he's probably gonna make some choices that we as the people don't agree with
(but who has done everything that everyone has agreed with?)

Sounds like GWB. How are you liking our two wars, our economy, our standing in the world, our trade deficit, our pork-barrell spending, and our successful capture.. or rather lack thereof, of the only foreigner to commit an attack against US soil since WWII?

I'd rather elect an anti-choice guy who I felt was compitent than a pro-choice guy who I thought was incompitent.

[Napoleon17]

Originally Posted by Chrysostom

Huckabee is the worst possible choice if the Republicans want to win. Giuliani, Romney, and Paul are the only ones who can win. Giuliani because he's centrist enough and he's from NYC. Romney because he's so unbelievably pretty and he's great at doublespeak. Paul because he breaks the blue/red mold and owns the large anti-war demographic. Huckabee combines all the worst parts of the left with extremely divisive far-right social posturing, which means that he will lose every state with much of an urban population. At this point I don't know if Clinton or Obama is more likely to win it for the Democrats -- Clinton's downside being that she is female and a really horrible person, Obama's being his race and lower experience -- but I think both stand with about equal chances in the election (Clinton obviously having an edge in the primary).

Best. Post. Ever. I can't stand Huckabee. He has no chance of winning, yet the media gives him props simply because they know that any Democratic candidate would destroy him. He's just stealing votes from Ron Paul.

[Mattlock]

The more I hear about this guy, the more I really, really fear him being voted as president.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Huckabee is far too liberal for my tastes. Not only does he have a history of increasing taxes, he also lies about it and plays to the Republican anti-tax mindset. The lie I'm thinking of is the documented one where he's claimed that the people of his state voted for a gas tax hike that he signed into law. Except, that tax was never on the ballot. The people had no way to vote for it. Yet he's tossed statistics around. Lies, not a good precedent for a guy who's committed not to raise taxes at the federal level. We saw how that worked for the first Bush.

do you have any sources or articles that back this up? I'm still undecided on who I'll vote for.

[Bryan]

in reading through his issues, specifically healthcare, he states:

and making health insurance tax deductible for individuals and families as it now is for businesses.

the premiums I pay out of my pocket are tax deductible.

also, he seems to want to get rid of employer based health insurance. so instead of my employer paying my premiums (or part of it) i'll pay for all of it. this is fine if I will also get a raise from my employer. but somehow I don't think all For Profit corps that no longer have premiums will shift all that cash to salary instead.

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HE SUPPORTS THE FAIR TAX!!!!!

[TunerSteve]

Originally Posted by Bryan

in reading through his issues, specifically healthcare, he states:

the premiums I pay out of my pocket are tax deductible.

Isn't that tax deduction only if you meet the 2% floor of your gross income? I sure wish I could deduct my premiums, but I can never meet that requirement. There is also programs like the section 125 (i think, i could be wrong) of the IRS code that allows you to pay your premiums with before tax dollars, and thats always made me wonder how strong that lobby for insurance companies can be, when they put themselves in front of the IRS, for your money /treadjack.

[bradguitarbeast]

so how do all of you feel about the dearest Fred Thompson? I mean he's not really a christian (so far as we know) but he is the most conservative out of all of those that are running(except for the ever mind changing john mccain.)lol.but seriously how do you feel about Fred?

[Napoleon17]

Originally Posted by bradguitarbeast

so how do all of you feel about the dearest Fred Thompson? I mean he's not really a christian (so far as we know) but he is the most conservative out of all of those that are running(except for the ever mind changing john mccain.)lol.but seriously how do you feel about Fred?

He's probably going to drop out soon. He has no money and no momentum.

[tht00]

Originally Posted by bradguitarbeast

so how do all of you feel about the dearest Fred Thompson? I mean he's not really a christian (so far as we know) but he is the most conservative out of all of those that are running(except for the ever mind changing john mccain.)lol.but seriously how do you feel about Fred?

Thompson isn't a conservative, at least, not in my mind. Just another Neocon in the Republican race...

He won't last much longer.

[Chrysostom]

Originally Posted by Bryan

HE SUPPORTS THE FAIR TAX!!!!!

But the FairTax can only be a good thing if taxes aren't sky-high, and under Huckabee there's no chance of a tax decrease. He's got the liberals' domestic utopianism plus the conservatives' foreign Messianism, which can mean nothing but more taxes. I mean, it will be great for my father because his bank will get rich as everybody moves to the Mexican border, but other than that Huckabee's FairTax will be a disaster.

Originally Posted by Bryan

do you have any sources or articles that back this up? I'm still undecided on who I'll vote for.

Did you watch the most recent debate? He said that we've got to go green and that means the development of a viable alternative to gas. (I have no problem with alternative fuels. The gas companies are pouring R&D funds into it for a reason.) He then adds that the way to develop this alternative is to create a market by mandating that the Federal government use only alternative fuel. Translation: Big government spending is the answer. This is the kind of thing that would be inconceivable to a limited government with limited taxes. The more you count on the government to push around the market, the more taxes you've got to grab.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Chrysostom

But the FairTax can only be a good thing if taxes aren't sky-high, and under Huckabee there's no chance of a tax decrease. He's got the liberals' domestic utopianism plus the conservatives' foreign Messianism, which can mean nothing but more taxes. I mean, it will be great for my father because his bank will get rich as everybody moves to the Mexican border, but other than that Huckabee's FairTax will be a disaster.


Did you watch the most recent debate? He said that we've got to go green and that means the development of a viable alternative to gas. (I have no problem with alternative fuels. The gas companies are pouring R&D funds into it for a reason.) He then adds that the way to develop this alternative is to create a market by mandating that the Federal government use only alternative fuel. Translation: Big government spending is the answer. This is the kind of thing that would be inconceivable to a limited government with limited taxes. The more you count on the government to push around the market, the more taxes you've got to grab.

So i was reading about Huckabee on wikipedia. And there is a lot of good info with a lot of good sources that back up what was said earlier about Huckabee raising taxes a lot. In both terms he raised various taxes.

[Ridley's Own]

Mike Huckabee isn't a Republican, really, he's an old-school, William Jennings Bryan-esque populist Democrat. He's Republican by virtue of being Southern Baptist, so he needs to be read accordingly.

[ApparentlyNothing]

Anyone see Huck on the Colbert Report recently? Apparently he has a sense of humor. Being able to make fun of himself makes him a little more likeable as a person in my book, but not much. And that obviously doesn't change his stance on a lot of issues I don't agree with.

But what if Colbert really was his running mate? Mmmmm, would I vote to screw up the country just for the potential comedy? Mmmmmmm................... Yes.