[thesteve]

Originally Posted by El Cabong

Looks like a beer to me.

I only drink dark beers...

[Art]

Haha. Okay, guys. Sean FTW. Topic is dead. Time to move on.

[Ted Logan]

Originally Posted by Ryan the Lion

Respect the temple of the lord (your body is a temple) you wouldn't have a beer in church so shouldnt do it anyhow

Ryan, I appreciate your concern that people who come to CGR see it as a God-honoring place. It really ought to be, right? Here's the problem - I have never yet met a non-Christian who said "You know why I'm not a Christian? Smilies with yellow mugs." You say it might turn people away; I submit that the ONLY people it turns away are Christians who are looking for something to get upset about. If this smiley upsets them, then undoubtedly something else that we talk about will do so, as well. Perhaps the gigantic thread about alcohol and tobacco. On an ecumenical forum like this, you have to realize that there are Christians of all stripes here, and in order to make an impact for Christ, you may have to hang out with unruly people with whom you disagree.

As for not doing things here that we wouldn't do in Church, that standard would get very restrictive, very quickly. You wouldn't be on the internet during Church (presumably), either. And husbands and wives wouldn't have sex in Church. That doesn't say anything about the ethics of the act itself; obviously it's a GOOD thing for married couples to enjoy the conjugal union. But I have to point out that many of the traditions represented at CGR have alcoholic beverages in Church every Sunday - they have wine at Communion.

All this being said, I did submit a brown-mug version of the smiley the first time this controversy broke out (to make it look more like root beer), but it was determined by the Admin staff of the time (who are now gone) that such a replacement would be to bow down to legalism. I disagree with that sentiment, though, and I wish fervently that we had replaced the smiley with the brown version a LONG time ago.

[Art]

Incidentally, I was not on the Admin team at that time. I was and still am in favor of that smiley. Do you still have it, Aaron?

[Ted Logan]

Sadly, no. My desktop died 2 years ago, and I lost that AND the Tetris song I wrote

Sad day.

It wouldn't be hard to edit, though, for someone with a program that lets them make animated gifs. I don't remember what program I used.

BTW, Luke unilaterally shot the request down (does that surprise you? )

[Art]

Not even a little bit. Haha. I would be okay both with adding it as a new icon, or replacing the old. But the rest of the admin staff would have to be consulted. Haha.

[MtlMom]

I have no fear of beer.

[mulletman]

Originally Posted by Sean.thomson

And debates usually end up in one guy calling another guy a cotton-headed ninnymuggins...

You cotton-headed ninnymuggins!






"A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper." -- Ludwig von Mises