Steroids?

**RK_lover** · 10-05-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

He's actually quite articulate and has a large vocabulary. He's just played so many brainless rolls that people assume he's brainless. If you watch any interviews with him or listen to his commentaries, he's far more articulate than one would expect.

He was also one amazing chizzaled 60 year old man with a body most 20 year olds would have to work hard to achieve.

I posed the same question to my father, who informed me that he had suffered nerve damage while an amatuer boxer; so I guess it isn't appropriate to make fun of it anymore.....I was talking about his actual enunciation while talking, not his vocabulary.

**Sean** · 10-05-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RK_lover

I posed the same question to my father, who informed me that he had suffered nerve damage while an amatuer boxer; so I guess it isn't appropriate to make fun of it anymore.....I was talking about his actual enunciation while talking, not his vocabulary.

In that case...yeah definitely.

Dr. Worm · 10-05-2007, 08:20 PM

It is obviously not black and white.

I do believe that a line should be drawn somewhere. I also believe that it is a pretty arbitrary line, regardless where it is drawn. Before some major injuries, I was a fairly good distance runner with a decent amount of potential. I've run a lot of races, and I can certainly understand an athlete wanting their results to be natural. "I want to know that I won that race, not the steroids/creatine/whatever." I understand it, and agree with it. But....I watched my diet. I carbo-loaded before a race. I never once said "I want to know that I know that I won the race, not the carbo-loading," or "I want to know that I am that fast, and that it wasn't just because I was properly hydrated". I'd still eat bananas to get potassium to avoid cramps, etc.

And what is the difference between all these things? Carbo-loading gave me an advantage that I wouldn't have had had I not done it. If anything, it is all just a matter of different degrees of the same exact thing, and even that is debatable.

If it is banned, athletes should follow the rules, and it is unethical for them not to. Otherwise, have at it.

Iceman-bass14 · 10-05-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

He was also one amazing chizzaled 60 year old man with a body most 20 year olds would have to work hard to achieve.

True but his man boobs were nasty.

**Sean** · 10-05-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Worm

And what is the difference between all these things? Carbo-loading gave me an advantage that I wouldn't have had had I not done it. If anything, it is all just a matter of different degrees of the same exact thing, and even that is debatable.

I see them as different degrees of the same thing. Supplements aren't magic beans. Creatine is found naturally in red meat. Carbs are a necessary for energy. Steroids don't magically give you big muscles. If you don't diet and lift while on steroids you won't make gains. All of these different things simply provide a the nutrients/hormones required to grow or they provide the resources necessary to perform.