10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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#1 | | Resident Botguy
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| Mormon Beliefs This isn't really about dating someone
because at this point it's just a friendship
But I was wondering really
As a person of Baptist faith
what differences come up between a Baptist and a Mormon
besides them believing that the Book of Mormon is the Bible....
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10-01-2007, 09:18 PM
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#2 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by RawkforChrist This isn't really about dating someone
because at this point it's just a friendship
But I was wondering really
As a person of Baptist faith
what differences come up between a Baptist and a Mormon | - They believe Jesus had a second ministry in the Americas.
- They believe Jesus and Satan are brothers
- To simplify (possibly to the point of distortion), their view of God and the after life somewhat resembles a pyramid scheme. God was once a person on a planet, and if you're good enough you can be the God of your own planet.
- They have several texts (penned by (or translated) by Joseph Smith in the 1800s) in addition to the Bible
In other words, its far more than denominational difference, and it would definitely fall into the unequally yoked category. Quote: |
besides them believing that the Book of Mormon is the Bible....
| They also believe in the Bible. They just believe in the Mormon texts as well. |
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10-01-2007, 11:33 PM
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#3 | | Resident Botguy
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They also believe in the Bible. They just believe in the Mormon texts as well
| yeah I realized that part..... Quote:
They believe Jesus and Satan are brothers
To simplify (possibly to the point of distortion), their view of God and the after life somewhat resembles a pyramid scheme. God was once a person on a planet, and if you're good enough you can be the God of your own planet.
| I did not realize those two
the other two I believe were in the list of beliefs that she sent me...
Though the I missed missed the brothers one...
She did talk to me about how they also believe that there is a place you can go if you believe your loved ones didn't get into heaven and you can work so that they can get into heaven.....I found that interesting
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10-02-2007, 12:17 AM
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#4 | | ♥ Mrs. Skeeter ♥
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| The more I talk to Mormons, the more I realize how much importance they place on works. That just doesn't sit well with me, since Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us it's by grace we are saved.
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10-02-2007, 10:34 AM
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#5 | | Resident Botguy
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| Yeah the work for heaven thing really irked me alot
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10-02-2007, 10:51 AM
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#6 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by RawkforChrist Yeah the work for heaven thing really irked me alot | Why? |
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10-02-2007, 11:27 AM
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#7 | | Resident Botguy
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| Well maybe irk isn't the best word to use
but more of that was one of her more pronounced beliefs
meaning that she stated how it made sense to her and stuff.....
but I'm gonna talk to her about it somemore
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10-03-2007, 10:34 AM
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#8 | | Registered User
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| I live in Utah, and I talk to Mormons every day. There's a HUGE difference in faith, and I would NOT recomend a serious relationship with a Mormon, unless you are one yourself.
The basic belief is that they're saved by works, and someday will become gods.
And BTW, the LDS church does NOT teach that the Bible is the true word of God. They believe that it's correct in as much as it is *translated* correctly, and they're not completely happy with any translation. They do believe that the King James version is the most correct version we have but if they dissagree with something in the Bible, they assume that it's wrong, and the Book of Mormon is right.
Sure, LDS people make for great friends, but you're gonna get yourself into a heap of trouble if you date one.
If you have more questions about what they believe, or how to witness to them, please aske me.
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10-03-2007, 10:52 AM
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#9 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by Katze And BTW, the LDS church does NOT teach that the Bible is the true word of God. They believe that it's correct in as much as it is *translated* correctly, and they're not completely happy with any translation. They do believe that the King James version is the most correct version we have but if they dissagree with something in the Bible, they assume that it's wrong, and the Book of Mormon is right. | They DO hold it as the word of God but like you said, its with the provisional belief that its only as good as its translation. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Wikipedia on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints The church's canon of sacred texts consists of the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. These are more commonly referred to as the church's Standard Works. Though not canonical, many members of the church also accept the teachings and pronouncements of the church's general authorities—and in particular those of the President of the Church—as scripture, and even as taking precedence over the Standard Works.[17]
The church's most distinctive scripture, the Book of Mormon, was published by founder Joseph Smith, Jr. in 1830, and is believed to be a spiritual history of various groups of pre-Columbian Israelites. Smith stated that he translated the Book of Mormon from plates that had "the appearance of gold" that he found buried near his home. The introduction printed with the book says that it is a history of the principal ancestors of the "American Indian" peoples.[18] Much debate has taken place on the subject of whether archaeology supports or denies the Book of Mormon's authenticity.[citation needed] The church's acceptance of the Bible as the word of God comes with the provisional belief that it was not always translated correctly from the original manuscripts. Joseph Smith worked on his own translation, said to be more correct, but this was never canonized by the church. For English language speakers, the church encourages the use of the King James Version.[20] The church regards parts of the Apocrypha,[21] the writings of some Protestant Reformers and non-Christian religious leaders, and the non-religious writings of some philosophers to be inspired, though not canonical.[22] | |
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10-03-2007, 11:55 AM
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#10 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by Sean They DO hold it as the word of God but like you said, its with the provisional belief that its only as good as its translation. | Everytime that I've tried to witness to a Mormon, and they've disagreed with the Bible, and said that it's translated wrong. The way to find out if it's correct, in their mind, is to compare it to the Book of Mormon.
What I don't get is why hasn't the LDS church published a correct translation?? If they have the truth, and the Bible isn't 1000% acurate, why don't they fix it??
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10-03-2007, 01:37 PM
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#11 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by Katze Everytime that I've tried to witness to a Mormon, and they've disagreed with the Bible, and said that it's translated wrong. The way to find out if it's correct, in their mind, is to compare it to the Book of Mormon.
What I don't get is why hasn't the LDS church published a correct translation?? If they have the truth, and the Bible isn't 1000% acurate, why don't they fix it?? | If Joseph Smith couldn't get a good enough translation for them... |
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10-03-2007, 03:21 PM
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#12 | | Honeymoonin'
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Originally Posted by Katze Everytime that I've tried to witness to a Mormon, and they've disagreed with the Bible, and said that it's translated wrong. The way to find out if it's correct, in their mind, is to compare it to the Book of Mormon.
What I don't get is why hasn't the LDS church published a correct translation?? If they have the truth, and the Bible isn't 1000% acurate, why don't they fix it?? | because you can't translate the original texts into bogus crap that suits your beliefs when there are religious and linguistic scholars (christian and not) who will expose your deception to the rest of the world.
It's highly unlikely that you're going to get a vastly different translation from the original texts without inventing things along the way. In my experience the more accurate the translation, the less Mormons like it anyway. Just try to show 'em the NASB sometime. |
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10-04-2007, 03:16 PM
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#13 | | Call me Dusty Hill
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| To the OP....i wouldnt do it.I honestly couldnt even consider dating a mormon girl.To me theres to big of a difference and i dont like the way they treat other races of people.
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10-04-2007, 09:55 PM
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#14 | | Resident Botguy
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Originally Posted by myself This isn't really about dating someone | I really love how people still are saying I don't need to go out with her....
it's a Relationship, not dating
lol
Anyway
The whole treating of different races
I have another friend who is a Mormon
and he believes that African Americans came on a ship from the moon....
but he's strange anyways
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10-05-2007, 03:05 AM
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#15 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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| Might I suggest PMing Jonathan Hays, AKA Athanasius?
As an ex Mormon of quite a level of former involvement I think he is probably your best source of info here.
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