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Old 10-30-2007, 05:16 PM   #46
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all im saying is that if you watch any old football game, pre-1985, the players are not as fast, not as big, and not as athletic as they are today.

and in response to the guy who said randy moss is too inconsistent...he has been an incredible receiver when with a good QB. with Cunningham, he was sensational as a rookie and sophomore. With Culpepper, he was also incredible. With the Raiders and however many guys they had as QB over those two years, he was no good. But now, with Tom Brady, he is again sensational. And I picked Brady for my dream QB.

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Old 10-30-2007, 05:20 PM   #47
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all im saying is that if you watch any old football game, pre-1985, the players are not as fast, not as big, and not as athletic as they are today.
All these things may be true...but the way they hit is still legendary and will remain so.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:25 PM   #48
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Until you get proof that theyre faster and can hit harder today than they did then let me know and stop speculating.
I don't know where you got in your head that people aren't allowed to post opinions and how they feel without you jumping down their throat. I am not the only person you have attacked on here, and obviously I will not be the last. Sports is one of the topics most open for debate and opinions, and it would greatly suit you to learn how to respect peoples opinions and not bash them because you don't agree. Sports is open to speculation whether or not you like it. Your attitude is really not helping you at all when it comes to getting respect. If you want people to take you seriously, you need to learn when to back off and you need to show others respect as well. If you can't respond without attacks and juvenile behavior, please don't post.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:31 PM   #49
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All these things may be true...but the way they hit is still legendary and will remain so.
yes, i do agree. they just wouldnt be my favs for a dream team.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:56 PM   #50
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I don't know where you got in your head that people aren't allowed to post opinions and how they feel without you jumping down their throat. I am not the only person you have attacked on here, and obviously I will not be the last. Sports is one of the topics most open for debate and opinions, and it would greatly suit you to learn how to respect peoples opinions and not bash them because you don't agree. Sports is open to speculation whether or not you like it. Your attitude is really not helping you at all when it comes to getting respect. If you want people to take you seriously, you need to learn when to back off and you need to show others respect as well. If you can't respond without attacks and juvenile behavior, please don't post.
Gwen i could say the same thing to you before.I do respect other peoples opinions but i will post my own which is what i did.I was not attacking Shift in the mlb thread and my opinion was not meant to be taken as an attack on fp11.But i dont want to get off topic.If you have a problem with me.(Which it seems you do very often)Please pm me instead of taking a thread off topic.
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Gwen i could say the same thing to you before.I do respect other peoples opinions but i will post my own which is what i did.I was not attacking Shift in the mlb thread and my opinion was not meant to be taken as an attack on fp11.But i dont want to get off topic.If you have a problem with me.(Which it seems you do very often)Please pm me instead of taking a thread off topic.
Fp11 wasn't taking the thread off topic at all, there was no reason to tell him to stop posting unless he had proof. You are not the authority on what can and cannot be posted. This has nothing to do with the thread in mlb, it has to do with you for some bizarre reason feeling only you have the right to post your opinions, and whenever anyone else does you get bent out of shape. Plus, I am now the second person you've attacked for having an opinion opposite of yours in sports and athletics. I don't have a problem with you, I have a problem with your attitude.
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Quarterback- Peyton Manning. I had a hard time choosing, but he's simply amazing
FB- Barry Sanders
FB- Emmet Smith
WR- Jerry Rice
WR- Marvin Harrison
TE- Shannon Sharpe
OL- Orlando Pace (gotta love them buckeyes )

DE- Reggie White
DT-Mean Joe Green
MLB- Mike Singletary
OLB-Lawrence Taylor
CB-Deion Sanders
CB-Champ Bailey
S-Paul Krause

K-Adam Vinatieri
P- Chris Gardocki
PR/KR- Gale Sayers
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Until you get proof that theyre faster and can hit harder today than they did then let me know and stop speculating.
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all im saying is that if you watch any old football game, pre-1985, the players are not as fast, not as big, and not as athletic as they are today.

and in response to the guy who said randy moss is too inconsistent...he has been an incredible receiver when with a good QB. with Cunningham, he was sensational as a rookie and sophomore. With Culpepper, he was also incredible. With the Raiders and however many guys they had as QB over those two years, he was no good. But now, with Tom Brady, he is again sensational. And I picked Brady for my dream QB.
I don't have time tonight, but I'll look tomorrow, or someone else can for the combine stats http://images.nfl.com/history/

And about Moss, I don't know if I'd say that Culpepper was a great QB, I think he was (and therefore, some of Moss's stats) were due to the whole system in Minnesota...but when he's motivated, he is one of the most dangerous receivers.....
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I don't know where you got in your head that people aren't allowed to post opinions and how they feel without you jumping down their throat. I am not the only person you have attacked on here, and obviously I will not be the last. Sports is one of the topics most open for debate and opinions, and it would greatly suit you to learn how to respect peoples opinions and not bash them because you don't agree. Sports is open to speculation whether or not you like it. Your attitude is really not helping you at all when it comes to getting respect. If you want people to take you seriously, you need to learn when to back off and you need to show others respect as well. If you can't respond without attacks and juvenile behavior, please don't post.
Although I completely agree with you here...trying to take the 'law into your own hands' isn't helping things.

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Gwen i could say the same thing to you before.I do respect other peoples opinions but i will post my own which is what i did.I was not attacking Shift in the mlb thread and my opinion was not meant to be taken as an attack on fp11.But i dont want to get off topic.If you have a problem with me.(Which it seems you do very often)Please pm me instead of taking a thread off topic.
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Fp11 wasn't taking the thread off topic at all, there was no reason to tell him to stop posting unless he had proof. You are not the authority on what can and cannot be posted. This has nothing to do with the thread in mlb, it has to do with you for some bizarre reason feeling only you have the right to post your opinions, and whenever anyone else does you get bent out of shape. Plus, I am now the second person you've attacked for having an opinion opposite of yours in sports and athletics. I don't have a problem with you, I have a problem with your attitude.
I'd have to say it was slightly off-topic.


But, all that aside, My list would be very similar to Gwens:
QB- Peyton Manning...or Brady, or any of the old timers-(Nameth,Montana,Unites[sp?],ect.)
RB- Barry Sanders
RB- Emmet Smith or Walter Payton
WR- Jerry Rice is definitely a lock here.
WR- Marvin Harrison (could go with Moss...or Irving, or Swann)
TE- Shannon Sharpe
OL- Orlando Pace (a lot of guys could go here)

DE- Reggie White
DT-Mean Joe Green
MLB- Mike Singletary or Dick Butkus
OLB-Lawrence Taylor
CB-Deion Sanders
CB-Champ Bailey
S-Paul Krause

K-Adam Vinatieri
P- Chris Gardocki
PR/KR- Gale Sayers
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