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Unread 09-15-2007, 11:17 AM   #1
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Good Rock Chords

Just curious, what're some good rock-ish chords besides power chords?

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Unread 09-15-2007, 11:28 AM   #2
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Just curious, what're some good rock-ish chords besides power chords?
uhh...major chords, minor chords, maybe...minor 7ths....major 7ths...

this is a really weird question...partially because I've never thought about it...and partially because it's really just limited to your creativity as a player.
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Unread 09-15-2007, 11:33 AM   #3
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I see. So, you're saying, any chord can be a rock chord if you have distortion or something...
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Unread 09-15-2007, 11:35 AM   #4
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You do realize that power chords are just stripped down versions of other chords right? Instead of having 3 notes (like major or minor chords) or 4 (like 7th or other 'jazz' chords) it's just 2. Root-5th-Octave. That's what gives it the drive.

That being said...no one really uses power chords. Unless you're in a punk band.
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Unread 09-15-2007, 11:35 AM   #5
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I see. So, you're saying, any chord can be a rock chord if you have distortion or something...
Yes, actually. But you're not asking the right question. You're not looking for chords, you're looking for progressions. The pentatonic scale is a really easy way to get started on rock progressions.
http://www.leagueofguitarists.com/fo...dex.php?page=6

I've attached a file with an example of how to use the pentatonic scale for rock. If you want to know what I did for any part of it, ask, I'll explain it.
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I see. So, you're saying, any chord can be a rock chord if you have distortion or something...
Distortion doesn't make it rock either. Prior to the sixties, most rock music was played fairly clean.

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That being said...no one really uses power chords. Unless you're in a punk band.
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Chuck Berry has been using power chords since the 50's. There wasn't any punk rock back then.
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That being said...no one really uses power chords. Unless you're in a punk band.
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I use power chords. I'm not in a punk band. Our stuff isn't punk either.
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Progressions don't make it rock either. I can play some rock songs with progressions found in classical songs.

What makes it rock is the "feel" of the song. The groove and the instrumentation.
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You do realize that power chords are just stripped down versions of other chords right? Instead of having 3 notes (like major or minor chords) or 4 (like 7th or other 'jazz' chords) it's just 2. Root-5th-Octave. That's what gives it the drive.

That being said...no one really uses power chords. Unless you're in a punk band.
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Pfft. "No one uses power chords".

You've gotta be kidding me! More people than just punk players use power chords. Many rock bands, most metal bands, etc. When you're using a very heavy distortion, you don't sound very good at all trying to do open chords. It just doesn't work. Now, I am no champion of using all power chords all the time, but you have to sometimes.
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When you're using a very heavy distortion, you don't sound very good at all trying to do open chords. It just doesn't work. Now, I am no champion of using all power chords all the time, but you have to sometimes.
just because you're not using open chords doesn't mean you're using power chords...I hope that's not what you're implying.
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Unread 09-15-2007, 01:09 PM   #11
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just because you're not using open chords doesn't mean you're using power chords...I hope that's not what you're implying.
no, I am not implying that at all.
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Unread 09-15-2007, 01:50 PM   #12
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I think what gravity is trying to get at, is that there are certain chords that have a certain "personality"/"atmoshpere" when distorted. Of course this depends on muting and the type of distortion.

For example open chords and open ringing minor chords "typically" dont sound so great with heavy distortion.

Ill give you some tab examples of chords that have a strong personality when distorted

This is a semi-A bar shape chord with a "root inversion" I believe I havent really bothered to find out. Anyhoo...I start it at the 7th fret where it might be easier for you to finger but you can move that shape anywhere on the neck. I typically bar the three notes on the 11th fret with my pinky finger.

|-------|
|-11----|
|-11----|
|-11----|
|--9----|
|--7----|

Here is another variation on that theme

|-------|
|-11----|
|-11----|
|-11----|
|--9----|
|-11----|

Here is a major sounding chord that sounds great with distortion, again I start it at the 7th fret to make it easy to finger

|-------|
|-------|
|-------|
|--9----|
|--6----|
|--7----|

extended variation of this

|-------|
|-------|
|--9----|
|--6----|
|--7----|
|--4----|


another

|-------|
|-------|
|--7----|
|--5----|
|--x----|
|--7----|

Thats just a few off the top of my head
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For example open chords and open ringing minor chords "typically" dont sound so great with heavy distortion.
Of course, much of AC/DC's most popular songs were built off distorted open chords.



One thing that is rather important to note about the use of root-fifth "power chords" is that while the guitar might be playing the root and the fifth with no third, the third is still implied by the key of the song, among other things. Our ears will "fill in" the missing note, depending on what the song sounds like overall.

A song's chordal structure isn't affixed to the guitar's chords, it can also make itself up.
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Unread 09-15-2007, 05:42 PM   #14
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Of course, much of AC/DC's most popular songs were built off distorted open chords.
I was referring to your run of the mill full open cowboy major/minor chords. Which is not what AC/DC used typically

Also...AC/DC is not what I would consider "heavy" distortion.
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Unread 09-17-2007, 10:01 AM   #15
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I don't play on electric a ton, but when I do, I can never find a good overdriven sound that doesn't make minor chords sound awful. What do you do to get a good sound with minor chords when you're overdriven?
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