Steroids in Baseball/Barry Bonds (split)

Iceman-bass14 · 08-08-2007, 07:47 AM

i found this quote from an article on yahoo very interesting

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Technically, Bonds swung, connected and sent a ball out of the park 756 different times in his 22-season career. But it takes Easter Bunny-level gullibility to believe he did it naturally

wjarmusch · 08-08-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman-bass14

i found this quote from an article on yahoo very interesting

ouch, that's harsh.

saveferris1643 · 08-08-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt4JC

Hank Aaron was very classy last night. No one expected him to be congratulating Bonds.

That was a recorded video that was taped a month ago. It was still classy, but it is no secret that he still does not support Bonds.

Iceman-bass14 · 08-08-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wjarmusch

ouch, that's harsh.

I found it rather amusing

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Originally Posted by saveferris1643

That was a recorded video that was taped a month ago. It was still classy, but it is no secret that he still does not support Bonds.

Can you blame him?And i dont mean just cause of the steriods issue and all but just cause it was his record.I wouldn't want to be there when my records broken.And its absurd that people actually wanted him to drop everything and follow Bonds around for a couple months waiting on him to break the record.

Stain of Peace · 08-08-2007, 01:06 PM

I was lucky enough to turn the tv on right before he hit the home run. But I agree with you guys about Hank Aaron, it was classy of him to make that video. But I think its only a matter of time before A-Rod or someone else breaks the record again, then we won't have to worry about this whole steriods thing.

saveferris1643 · 08-08-2007, 02:41 PM

Man I can't wait until someone else breaks the record. And I don't blame him either. Maybe if Barry didn't cheat, but I definately wouldn't want my record brwken by a 'roider.

Adam K · 08-08-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman-bass14

i found this quote from an article on yahoo very interesting

And true also.

monkeysmile · 08-08-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saveferris1643

Man I can't wait until someone else breaks the record. And I don't blame him either. Maybe if Barry didn't cheat, but I definately wouldn't want my record brwken by a 'roider.

Can you prove he cheated? He's been tested countless times and has always come clean, and as we all know steroids must be taken continuously if they are to profit you anything. Bonds is 43 years old and has 22 homeruns this season, why do all those other homeruns he hit when he was younger and in better shape have to be from steroids? I'm getting so tired of all the Bonds haters saying he took steroids so they can try and make believe he didn't really break the record.

monkeysmile · 08-08-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman-bass14

i found this quote from an article on yahoo very interesting

I believe he did it just as naturally as A-Rod is doing it or Aaron did it. How come nobody is accusing Rodriguez of steroids? Youngest player to 500, he must be cheating somehow.

Adam K · 08-08-2007, 03:10 PM

But seriously, look at Bonds back in his Pirates days and look at him now. If it wasn't steroids, I don't know what.

monkeysmile · 08-08-2007, 03:13 PM

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But seriously, look at Bonds back in his Pirates days and look at him now. If it wasn't steroids, I don't know what.

I know, isn't it shocking he put on 35 pounds in 8 years? Dustin Penner of the Edmonton Oilers was 5'8 120 lbs going into highschool and on draft day he was 6'4 240 lbs. If you lift weights and eat properly putting on 35 lbs is no big deal.

**thesteve** · 08-08-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeysmile

Can you prove he cheated? He's been tested countless times and has always come clean, and as we all know steroids must be taken continuously if they are to profit you anything. Bonds is 43 years old and has 22 homeruns this season, why do all those other homeruns he hit when he was younger and in better shape have to be from steroids? I'm getting so tired of all the Bonds haters saying he took steroids so they can try and make believe he didn't really break the record.

fwiw...he is 43 now...in his first few years in the league (86-92) he never broke 35 HRs. From 93-99 he broke 40 twice. From 00-04 he broke 40 HRs every year (49, 73, 46, 45 and 45).

I think the view is that most players hit 30-35 years old and start to slow down. Bonds hit 35 in 99 and it started generating some serious power numbers at what is generally considered a slowdown time.

monkeysmile · 08-08-2007, 03:18 PM

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fwiw...he is 43 now...in his first few years in the league (86-92) he never broke 35 HRs. From 93-99 he broke 40 twice. From 00-04 he broke 40 HRs every year (49, 73, 46, 45 and 45).

I think the view is that most players hit 30-35 years old and start to slow down. Bonds hit 35 in 99 and it started generating some serious power numbers at what is generally considered a slowdown time.

Most players don't break 35 hr's in their first few years. Anyone look at A-Rod's stats? Here they are.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...347&statType=1

He went from 23 to 42 in one year! And only 5 in 48 games his first season.

**thesteve** · 08-08-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeysmile

Most players don't break 35 hr's in their first few years. Anyone look at A-Rod's stats? Here they are.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_...347&statType=1

He went from 23 to 42 in one year! And only 5 in 48 games his first season.

Thanks for the stats...you should've read them...A-Rod broke 35 home runs in his first full season. A-Rod's power numbers have been fairly consistent IMO.

Adam K · 08-08-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeysmile

I know, isn't it shocking he put on 35 pounds in 8 years? Dustin Penner of the Edmonton Oilers was 5'8 120 lbs going into highschool and on draft day he was 6'4 240 lbs. If you lift weights and eat properly putting on 35 lbs is no big deal.

You still grow in highschool. I don't see how that's relevant as Bonds wasn't a highschooler when he started.