[goldenchild]

Originally Posted by theguidedheart

Would you care to explain how you see seperated brethren as a heresy based on your understanding? Or more specifically where you see the contridiction... in my reading through the Catechism, and my understanding of previous councils like Trent, I didn't find it contridictory, only 'NICER' in terms of language - so there was a difference in that aspect - but I have what I believe to be a good reason in my mind why that may be - in general it seems to tie into invincible ignorance and baptism of desire. But in what I read and understood - the same teaching on this seems to be there to me, I wouldn't mind hearing your perspective...

Peace

Yeah I can do that. I think you asked for something similar in another thread so I'm going to try and consolidate all of this into one other thread that already exists.

[goldenchild]

Originally Posted by Reedolo

How are sedevacantists any better off than us, from your perspective? Sedevacantists believe in papal infallibility and also that the papacy fell into heresy. I still haven't come to understand how this isn't a blatant contradiction in their beliefs.

Your arrogance in refusing to accept your misunderstanding of the doctrine is really getting in your way. Until you accept a simple error, errors that everybody makes at one time or another, you will never be able to accept the Catholic position on the Papacy.

[goldenchild]

Originally Posted by theguidedheart

Would you care to explain how you see seperated brethren as a heresy based on your understanding? Or more specifically where you see the contridiction... in my reading through the Catechism, and my understanding of previous councils like Trent, I didn't find it contridictory, only 'NICER' in terms of language - so there was a difference in that aspect - but I have what I believe to be a good reason in my mind why that may be - in general it seems to tie into invincible ignorance and baptism of desire. But in what I read and understood - the same teaching on this seems to be there to me, I wouldn't mind hearing your perspective...

Peace

hey. Sorry I didn't get to it tonight like I promised. I got way behind trying to answer all of Reed's misconceptions... I'll get to it as soon as I can, and will probably just do it in this thread as this seems to be the least busy of the three right now. peace

[+Donny]

Good to see you back, man. God bless.

[goldenchild]

Hey guys just posting here to say that I have decided not to post much about sedevacantism any more on CGR. If you want to know more please do not hesitate to pm or email me or go to my personal board affiliated with my site: crownofmartyrs.xphpbb.com

I'm not leaving here, I just believe its not in the best interest of promoting my faith to do it through here. I will stay on and explain things in light of pre-vatican II theology where it permits, but it is too confusing an issue to discuss sedevacantism issues on a board where simple, basic Catholic theology itself isn't understood or accepted. peace

p.s. supposedly I have two unread pm's in my box. But it's all mucked up so I have no idea where the messages are or who sent them. If it was anything important please be sure to either send it again, or let me know here. or email. laters