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View Poll Results: Should you listen to secular music?
It's not really a big deal 155 64.58%
No, you should not listen to secular music 44 18.33%
You should listen to Secular Music 41 17.08%
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Unread 12-16-2003, 02:56 PM   #856
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I'd like to get some opinions on this regarding Ozzy Osbourne and Metallica in particular. They obviously have this sort of label, but is it right? Do they deserve it? Any evidence for or against this label?
I've heard some people call Ozzy satanic but all of those people happen to be fundamentalist Christians. I've never heard anyone call Metallica satanic. And no, there is no evidence that either are satanic, it's just silly.

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Unread 12-16-2003, 02:58 PM   #857
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To answer you question, AGRIMES87666, yes.
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Unread 12-16-2003, 03:53 PM   #858
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Ozzy and Metallica Satanic? Yeah, and I'm a Hindu.

The rumored ones I have heard of to have SOME members who are Satanic were King Diamond and Black Oak Arkansas. Not even sure if these bands are still around. Can I get a confirmation? 10-4. Over & Out.
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Unread 12-16-2003, 03:55 PM   #859
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The only band I've heard of talking about being Satanic of late were Chorozon, or something. I'm sure I've mis-spelled that.

Anyway, off to the big sticky at the top of the forum for this.
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Unread 12-17-2003, 03:00 PM   #860
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"PLEASE be a Christian Band!" Why?

I don't think goes under the secular/relation thread so I'm posting here. But why does it always seem that people are always saying, "I think they are Christians" at the slightest mention of God? It's like we are begging for them to have a relationship with God. I mean Ruben Studdard has Fred Hammond on his new CD, and some girl at my church was like "Ruben the American Idol(atry) guy is a Christian!" How can we call these secular artists Christian by the lyrics in their liner notes instead of by the lifestyles they lead? Do THEY want to be know as Christians? Is'nt it all a bit presumptuious? Speak away...
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Unread 12-17-2003, 03:07 PM   #861
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Its stupid. They're ignorant and they want to be able to justify liking them because they think its sinful to be near non-Christians...but only with music. Its stupid.
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Unread 12-17-2003, 08:45 PM   #862
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I guess all I'm saying is does it even matter?

(And this sucks in this thread...does anybody actually look here?)
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Unread 12-17-2003, 10:09 PM   #863
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(And this sucks in this thread...does anybody actually look here?)
Judging from the fact that this thread has over 740 replies, yes.

This thread is stickied for 2 reasons:
1) It is the most common issue raised in this forum.
2) It is the only place where questions such as the one you have posed are to be discussed.
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Unread 12-17-2003, 10:57 PM   #864
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Cool... that's fine I just thought that this thread was dead.
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Unread 12-18-2003, 01:56 AM   #865
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Cool... that's fine I just thought that this thread was dead.
Im subscribed to this thread and check every new post to see if I can spew my opinion on the ones who posted. Lately its all been a bunch of hogwash that people post somewhere else and it gets merged here, so I havent bothered.
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I don't think goes under the secular/relation thread so I'm posting here. But why does it always seem that people are always saying, "I think they are Christians" at the slightest mention of God? It's like we are begging for them to have a relationship with God. I mean Ruben Studdard has Fred Hammond on his new CD, and some girl at my church was like "Ruben the American Idol(atry) guy is a Christian!" How can we call these secular artists Christian by the lyrics in their liner notes instead of by the lifestyles they lead? Do THEY want to be know as Christians? Is'nt it all a bit presumptuious? Speak away...
One quick point. Since when did it matter who we thought was Christian? Also when did you become so knowledgable on Ruben Studdards lifestyle? Im sure if hes not Christian he definetly has some Christian influence, and thats what would bring about these lyrics. Yes, its stupid to jump to conclusions just because someone mentioned God, BUT that can also be applied to your assumption that he is not Christian. That would also include jumping to conclusions when someone doesnt mention God. So, in review, jumping to conclusions is a problem we all have and need to work on, and really, who needs conclusions?
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Unread 12-18-2003, 12:13 PM   #866
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I realise that this thread might seem dead, but check the amount of views.

It gets read a LOT.
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Unread 12-18-2003, 05:04 PM   #867
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Here is my "main beef" with Christian artists singing about "Christian things:"
The term "Christian" should describe a person, not a thing. The burden of proof is on one's faith. A Christian’s commitment to Jesus Christ permeates everything they do. Thus Christian music can’t be music only about Christian things; it would be about anything that faith touches, and faith touches anything. Everything a Christian does can and should relate to faith in some way.

A life committed to Jesus will be always be much bigger than anything labeled “Christian.”

Integrity, truth, honesty and vulnerability should always be paramount, regardless of the “Jesus” content in one’s lyrics.
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Unread 12-28-2003, 02:11 PM   #868
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I don't listen to secular music, simply because I think Christian music serves the better purpose... As a CHRISTian, I choose to only listen to music that glorifies Him...

Just my opinion, not dissing anyone who DOES listen to secular music. ;]
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Unread 12-28-2003, 03:05 PM   #869
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Haha *sigh.

So much more than "Christian" music that can glorify God, and in my opinion, a lot of the secular stuff out there is a greater testament to Him than say, the latest Reliant K album.

There are pages and pages and pages of that discussed earlier on in here, though, so I'll save the redundancy.
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Haha *sigh.
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