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View Poll Results: Should you listen to secular music?
It's not really a big deal 155 64.58%
No, you should not listen to secular music 44 18.33%
You should listen to Secular Music 41 17.08%
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:16 PM   #1861
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What should I do next time whenever she makes comments like that?
It doesn't sound like a friendly discussion it sounds like she takes it seriously. So...what's the point in arguing? You know?

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:52 PM   #1862
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If a band has morally wrong stuff... Then dont listen to it... Seriously... If we are supposed to be Christian... We shouldn't listen to things that would make God cringe...
Can you quote me a morally wrong line that would make God "cringe" or "hurl"?
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:00 PM   #1863
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But I will mention that she commented, 'Nobody should be listening to that!' What should I do next time whenever she makes comments like that?
Say 'Ok mom' and let it be.
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:21 PM   #1864
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It doesn't sound like a friendly discussion it sounds like she takes it seriously. So...what's the point in arguing? You know?
Ur right. But in the situation I was in, I felt pressured to have an answer.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:26 PM   #1865
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Darkness is not a thing it is the lack of light. Censorship is evil as is all "thou shalt not" theology. By their fruit you will know them. The time will come when they will kill you thinking they are doing God service. Jesus taught a message of thou shall, a positive approach, banning anything only gives it more power. Heroin is not evil but it can take you there very quickly. Music takes you places, often wonderous but if its draging you down somewhere you don't want to go you might want to change the channel.
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:02 PM   #1866
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Darkness is not a thing it is the lack of light. Censorship is evil as is all "thou shalt not" theology. By their fruit you will know them. The time will come when they will kill you thinking they are doing God service. Jesus taught a message of thou shall, a positive approach, banning anything only gives it more power. Heroin is not evil but it can take you there very quickly. Music takes you places, often wonderous but if its draging you down somewhere you don't want to go you might want to change the channel.
What the crap?

Thou shalt not murder is a pretty good rule of life. Censorship is not evil. Believe me, if you knew half the evil in this world you'd never sleep a wink again. Jesus taught a message with quite a few thou shalt not's attached.
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Another thing that bugs me...

One of my cousins told me that I shouldn't listen to anything by Blue Oyster Cult (I probably spelled that wrong), because they did one song that was fairly innapropriate (Probably More than one).
I honestly don't believe this at all. If I like a band that does an innappropriate song, should I stop listening to them? No.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:52 PM   #1868
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I think we should obey our conscience concerning what we listen to.
However, I think some secular songs accurately describe the human soul
and can be useful in witnessing.
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Old 08-23-2009, 07:18 PM   #1869
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I feel that as a musician, I HAVE TO listen to all sorts of music so that I may understand the full breadth of musical expression.
If you are a musician and you listen to one sort of music, you only understand the one type of music.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:43 PM   #1870
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I used to be anti-secular, I didn't even know why.

I'm not that old either but up until a year or two ago, everything was Christian music. Everything else was just deemed bad, not sure why. But hell I enjoy lots of music now.
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Not that simple
Just skimming the posts and it seems to lump every performer into "Christian" or "secular". Let's look closer.

Sandi Patty and Stryper? Not exactly the same, nor is Third Day the same as Twila Paris. How about Larnel Harris, the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir, and Casting Crowns. Definitely not interchangeable musically.

How about U2? Not typically played on Christian radio around here, but they are overtly Christian -- check "In The Name of Love" and Bono's public statements. (I don't agree with his politics, but I belive he is a believer.)

There are a large number of artists/songs in secular genres that have a positive spiritual message, subtly or overtly Christian. Here's a few:

"I Know You're Out There Somewhere" -- Moody Blues
"Solid Rock" -- Dire Straits
"Three Wooden Crosses" -- Randy Travis
"The Rose" - Bette Middler
"Where Were You When the World Stopped Turning" -- Alan Jackson

Even a few I have heard in church:

"When I Get Where I'm Going" -- Brad Paisley and Dolly Parton
"Bless the Broken Road" -- Rascal Flatts

(My taste runs to classic rock and modern country, I am sure there are other worthwhile songs in other genres).

Yes there are the Linkin Parks and Korns that don't seem to have any spiritual value, and I avoid them. But that is only after I have followed scripture:

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from GOD, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1

We are not supposed to hide our heads in the sand; nor are we to be gullible and swallow anything that strikes our fancy. We are supposed to grow in spirit, and become so knowledgeable that we can discern false prophets.
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Yes there are the Linkin Parks and Korns that don't seem to have any spiritual value, and I avoid them. But that is only after I have followed scripture:

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from GOD, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1

We are not supposed to hide our heads in the sand; nor are we to be gullible and swallow anything that strikes our fancy. We are supposed to grow in spirit, and become so knowledgeable that we can discern false prophets.
What makes the aforementioned bands "false prophets"? And how can you determine that certain bands can't possibly have any spiritual value?
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What makes the aforementioned bands "false prophets"? And how can you determine that certain bands can't possibly have any spiritual value?

Read the lyrics.
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Read the lyrics.
So any songwriter with lyrics that don't stem from a Christian perspective is a false prophet? And something that may have no spiritual value for you could still be valuable in some way to others.
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Ironically, I got Genius running on my iTunes and Outkast just came on after TobyMac. I view the issue the way that I look at alcohol; if being around it will suck you in then by all means avoid it. But I still have a beer every now and then (only in Europe ), just as I rock out to RATM occasionally. I enjoy a lot of stuff by Christian artists, but as it's been mentioned before, sometimes I want a little different style that I haven't found in that subgenre yet.
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