07-16-2007, 07:08 PM
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#1 | | MSUM 2011!!!
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 290
| Of forgiveness. Hello friends
I have a brief question of sorts...
I know that Jesus talked about forgiveness and mercy and that jazz, and thats cool and all...
but when you forgive someone of something, and you don't have Christ's teaching in mind, is the forgiveness moot?
I had a situation go down a few months ago where I got hurt pretty badly by a ladyfriend, and recently she asked for my forgiveness, and like any man with half a heart, i gave her the forgiveness that she needed to ease her soul.
but I wasn't thinking about what Jesus would do, or what he said, or anything like that. I just put myself in her shoes, wanting forgiveness, and wanting to get back in my life. she gave me valid reasons, and I forgave her.
is there a flaw there?
Last edited by hapa_angel; 07-16-2007 at 10:32 PM.
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07-16-2007, 08:02 PM
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#2 | | Honeymoonin'
Joined: Dec 2001 Location: Bremerton, wa Posts: 4,888
| If the motive is to forgive the person and mean it, then you are doing what jesus would do. Needing to be preoccupied about WWJD is not the point. |
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07-16-2007, 08:15 PM
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#3 | | so much
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,067
| No.
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"(a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.
(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or
recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage. Texas Constitution, Article I, Section 32" |
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07-16-2007, 09:58 PM
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#4 | | Dude. | I agree, your "in her shoes" mentality is a great one to be in. As redbaron stated, it seems like you meant it which is what you need to do.
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07-16-2007, 10:18 PM
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#5 | | High Five!
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Here Posts: 9,608
| Forgiveness isn't just saying "You're forgiven." It's saying it and meaning it. It doesn't mean that they didn't hurt you or do any wrong, though, it just means you've forgiven them, and you've chosen not to let bitterness take over.
So you're in the right, don't sweat it  . |
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07-17-2007, 03:16 AM
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#6 | | MSUM 2011!!!
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 290
| She just told me she's a lesbian. She's still forgiven by me for what she did, but damn... can a guy be that bad he turns a girl gay? |
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07-17-2007, 06:24 AM
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#7 | | Registered User
Joined: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 423
| I agree with the others; your heart is in the right place with the forgiveness; don't try to over think the process.
As far as the lesbian thing, I wouldn't over think that one either; she made her choice, I would seriously doubt that it had anything to do with your influence, & if it did, that would be her shortsightedness, not anything concerning you. But what would I know, I'm not a lesbian.
It is an unfortunate situation, folks like that just need understanding & prayer... |
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07-17-2007, 08:21 AM
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#8 | | so much
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,067
| Quote:
Originally Posted by 4stringfreak She just told me she's a lesbian. She's still forgiven by me for what she did, but damn... can a guy be that bad he turns a girl gay? | No.
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"(a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.
(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or
recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage. Texas Constitution, Article I, Section 32" |
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07-17-2007, 08:44 AM
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#9 | | Super Mom Super Moderator
Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Central California Posts: 10,520
| You're dealing with some pretty intense emotional stuff right now, and all the logic in the world isn't going to help. My advice is to pray for your friend, for God's will in her life, and give yourself some time. I'll pray for both of you. |
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07-21-2007, 07:54 PM
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#10 | | 11th hr. begins @ 10:00
Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Ohio, USA! Posts: 663
| Forgiveness is letting go of the hurt and not holding the act against the person who did it, not trying to get back at them. In this case it sounds like she hurt you by being dishonest, I take it.
If anyone did influence her to turn gay, it was probably in her background more. Womanizers do nothing to help women stay straight, IMO, and loose women help men go down the crooked path.
If you feel guilty, do you think you did anything to offend her, or use her? And do you need forgiveness? |
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07-21-2007, 08:08 PM
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#11 | | Dogbert's back!
Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,320
| You let her sin against you go, so you did the right thing. I guarantee you though that the lesbian problem runs much deeper than anything that you could've done. |
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