What should I do?

07-13-2007, 09:47 PM

So, I'm getting my first gun soon, which would you pick and why.
AR-15 or AK-47. I'm getting it in a semi auto, got $1000 to spend what should I get?

**DaGeek** · 07-13-2007, 11:12 PM

I'm pretty sure this is the wrong forum... Why not register here and post in Outdoors (under Hobbies/Entertainment, I believe)? There's a very helpful community here for the most part *coughSlopecough*

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However... My opinion. First, what do you plan to use it for? If it were for myself, I'd go with the AR-15, but that's just based on what I'd use it for.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-13-2007, 11:14 PM

Aren't both of those illegal in most states? A true AK 47 is illegal without special permits. Personally, I fail to see the point for these sorts of weapons unless you are going to war. As an SKS owner, I see the badass factor of them, but really, its pure suckage when a stroke of a pen forces you to either ship your gun or certain accessories out of state to abide by laws.

A good first gun is a .22. cheap ammo, and such.

Seriously though, how old are you and why are you looking at weapons of military grade?

**DaGeek** · 07-13-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

Aren't both of those illegal in most states? A true AK 47 is illegal without special permits. Personally, I fail to see the point for these sorts of weapons unless you are going to war. As an SKS owner, I see the badass factor of them, but really, its pure suckage when a stroke of a pen forces you to either ship your gun or certain accessories out of state to abide by laws.

A good first gun is a .22. cheap ammo, and such.

Seriously though, how old are you and why are you looking at weapons of military grade?

He's not getting an illegal weapon:

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I'm getting it in a semi auto

Semi-auto is perfectly legal. It'd be just like buying any other rifle, if I'm not mistaken. And is it a problem that he wants to buy a rifle? Guns, to him, may be like guitars are to us.

bobthecockroach · 07-13-2007, 11:25 PM

What you should get is a new hobby.

mulletman · 07-13-2007, 11:30 PM

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What you should get is a new hobby.

Or an MP-5.

bobthecockroach · 07-13-2007, 11:32 PM

Someone had to say it.

I truthfully have nothing against guns, nor people owning them. I have a huge problem, however, with people buying "cool" guns so they can look cool with a cool gun. I have absolutely no reason to believe this is the case here except for the fact that I automatically assume it is the case whenever I hear about someone buying a gun. Experience has shown me that I'm right at least 75% of the time.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-13-2007, 11:33 PM

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He's not getting an illegal weapon:

Semi-auto is perfectly legal. It'd be just like buying any other rifle, if I'm not mistaken. And is it a problem that he wants to buy a rifle? Guns, to him, maybe like guitars are to us.

Not always true. Firstly, the ak-47 has no true semi-auto type. They are always automatic. I believe a semi auto conversion called the mach 90 was released about 10 years ago, but even so, these semis are highly regulated as are AR-15's. As an owner of a grandfathered variety of an assault rifle (SKS Russian pre-Clinton ban) I do read up on this sort of stuff and neither of these guns are really a good idea.

I guarantee you most cops would arrest you first, find out its legal later in this day and age. I almost got busted over my very legal SKS already.

Usually when people are obsessed with weapons of this nature it is a problem. I know because I used to be myself.

The more important question to ask is why you think you need this.

bobthecockroach · 07-13-2007, 11:34 PM

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Not always true. Firstly, the ak-47 has no true semi-auto type. They are always automatic. I believe a semi auto conversion called the mach 90 was released about 10 years ago, but even so, these semis are highly regulated as are AR-15's. As an owner of a grandfathered variety of an assault rifle (SKS Russian pre-Clinton ban) I do read up on this sort of stuff and neither of these guns are really a good idea.

I guarantee you most cops would arrest you first, find out its legal later in this day and age. I almost got busted over my very legal SKS already.

Usually when people are obsessed with weapons of this nature it is a problem. I know because I used to be myself.

The more important question to ask is why you think you need this.

I'm glad someone here can be reasonable about this, because I know I can't.

bobthecockroach · 07-13-2007, 11:35 PM

Besides. Automatic is bunk. If I was ever going to own a gun (and it's not likely I ever will), it would be a single shot, bolt action.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-13-2007, 11:36 PM

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Someone had to say it.

I truthfully have nothing against guns, nor people owning them. I have a huge problem, however, with people buying "cool" guns so they can look cool with a cool gun. I have absolutely no reason to believe this is the case here except for the fact that I automatically assume it is the case whenever I hear about someone buying a gun. Experience has shown me that I'm right at least 75% of the time.

I agree. I own guns, but I used to bounty hunt Coyotes. A fast firing semi auto that could send those pests rolling was my tool unless I used one of my more powerful bolt actions.

However, its people like me who in real life have guns hidden away who never reveal what they have in real life. So you may be wrong Bob. Most responsible gun owners do not talk about their guns unless there is a distinct reason.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-13-2007, 11:38 PM

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Besides. Automatic is bunk. If I was ever going to own a gun (and it's not likely I ever will), it would be a single shot, bolt action.

Semi auto for me, though I am partial to my clipped, 5 shot bolt action rifles. Both are from WWII era and are great hunting guns.

bobthecockroach · 07-13-2007, 11:42 PM

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Semi auto for me, though I am partial to my clipped, 5 shot bolt action rifles. Both are from WWII era and are great hunting guns.

As long as it's bolt action. Unless you're planning on actually killing something with your gun (which I somehow doubt is the case here, because a AK-47 is not exactly ideal for hunting) and it's important that it be suitable for such a purpose, you may as well go for the real thing. If you're going to be paying $0.50/bullet or so (or am I way off?), you should have to spend some time thinking about each bullet.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-13-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthecockroach

As long as it's bolt action. Unless you're planning on actually killing something with your gun (which I somehow doubt is the case here, because a AK-47 is not exactly ideal for hunting) and it's important that it be suitable for such a purpose, you may as well go for the real thing. If you're going to be paying $0.50/bullet or so (or am I way off?), you should have to spend some time thinking about each bullet.

SKS rounds run around $0.20 each, and to be honest, gets a false bad rap for accuracy. Mine and my brothers are quite accurate. (I bought mine originally for $75 during the big import boom with the intention of resale later) But when the Coyote is worth $50 dead, a wasted $0.60 is no big deal.

I can find Nagant ammo for rroughly $0.40 each and I reload my own .308. (runs around $0.12 each)

**Fandrew** · 07-14-2007, 12:07 AM

I've always wanted to get into recreational target shooting. I've shot clay pigeons before, with a borrowed gun, but most recently, I experienced target shooting with a (believe) 1938 M1 Garand. That, was just fun to me. Go figure.

And I hunt with a .270. Deer