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Unread 06-30-2007, 10:58 AM   #1
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gibson les paul vintage mahogany

ok, so I have heard different things on this guitar. Is it a studio or not? and also how epiphone les paul's compare to this? and is it worth buying, this is what I am thinking of buyng (when I get the money, if I get a job), but just wanted to hear opinions.

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Unread 06-30-2007, 11:19 AM   #2
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It's a great guitar. I really dont understand the difference between a studio/standard/custom LP because they are all the same to me...just a different truss rod cover.

It's very lightweight and has fairly thick tone. You need to go play it yourself before you make a decision.
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It doesn't have a maple top.
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Unread 06-30-2007, 07:31 PM   #4
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I used to want one until I played it against a Gibson Les Paul Classic. The classic is well worth the extra bucks in my opinion. Might be better then an epiphone though, I guess it depends on the guitar. I personally didn't like the rough, unfinished like feeling the neck had either.
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Yeah I hate the unfinished necks. If you can stand the neck, go for it.
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hmm... I love unfinished maple necks... i don't know about mahogany though...
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hmm... I love unfinished maple necks... i don't know about mahogany though...
They're not unfinished, they're usually finished in a thin skin satin finish. At the very least they're oil finished.
A truly unfinished neck would dry, rot and/or crack in short order due to dirt, oils and sweat from skin and elsewhere.

The difference between all of these Les Pauls is basically the following:
Les Paul mahogany - it's a Studio model (or used to be) that has a mahogany body, mahogany carved top and mahogany neck. No body, neck or headstock binding.
Les Paul Studio - same as above but with a maple carved top. Possible ebony fretboard as opposed to rosewood.
Les Paul Classic - same as a Studio but with front body and neck single ply binding.
Les Paul Standard - same as the Classic but with pickup upgrades, different neck size options, potentially better woods.
Les Paul Custom - same as a Standard but with 3 ply binding on the neck, both sides of the body and headstock. Ebony fretboard. May have a carved mahogany top as opposed to maple.

There are other differences and several variations of every Les Paul model so the above is not the Gospel Truth...it's merely a guideline useful for quick reference.
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It's very lightweight and has fairly thick tone. You need to go play it yourself before you make a decision.
As opposed to other models which are heavier.

I've played one before, and they're pretty decent. My friend has the SG version of this guitar, and it plays really well. Of course, if I were going to get a Les Paul, I'd just save up and buy a Custom, probably used.
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well, how about compared to an epiphone les paul custom??
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well, how about compared to an epiphone les paul custom??
You'd have to play the two to be certain but I would probably take the Gibson over the Epi simply because the Made in China Epi is going to use lesser quality materials across the board where as the Gibson vintage mahogany is going to have decent materials but cost less compared to other LP's due to having no binding, no figured maple top and a vintage or worn thin finish.
The pickups and overall electronics and hardware should be a big step up on the Gibson compared to the Epi.
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what do you guys mean by binding? I dont know what that is. is it what keeps it together??
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You'd have to play the two to be certain but I would probably take the Gibson over the Epi simply because the Made in China Epi is going to use lesser quality materials across the board where as the Gibson vintage mahogany is going to have decent materials but cost less compared to other LP's due to having no binding, no figured maple top and a vintage or worn thin finish.
The pickups and overall electronics and hardware should be a big step up on the Gibson compared to the Epi.
when did Epi go MIC? I was under the impression that they were still Samick/Cort made MIK.
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what do you guys mean by binding? I dont know what that is. is it what keeps it together??
Binding is the (usually) white stuff going along the edge of the body/neck of the guitar.
This Agile is bound on the top: http://www.rondomusic.net/product792.html
this one isn't: http://www.rondomusic.net/AgileTC6302ts.html
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Unread 07-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #13
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oh! I see. How big of a difference does the binding make?
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oh! I see. How big of a difference does the binding make?
Purely for looks.
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I personally hate binding. I think it's ugly and makes the guitar look like plastic.

And the neck IS finished, it's just in a smoother satin finish...which aren't bad at all, it's just preference.
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