Is suicide a one way ticket to Hell?

Tmurrin · 07-01-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthecockroach

I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ.

amen

**redbaron** · 07-01-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanael

If you're a born again Christian, living under the blood of christ with the Spirit of God dwelling in you, why would you commit suicide? Killing yourself would be a desperate, selfish solution rather than commiting your problems to God.

This is the same flawed argument that misinformed Christians make about anything to do with mental illness. Most people who are to the point that they will consider killing themselves are not "healthy".

This is the argument that says if you have clinical depression caused by a chemical imbalance, you should pray about it, rather than going to a doctor. Of course, no one who makes that argument would even presume to suggest that a person with cancer should just pray about it, and that going to a doctor obviously shows that they don't trust God.

Sorry, but that philosophy just really grinds my gears.

tlj009 · 07-03-2007, 09:18 AM

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This is the same flawed argument that misinformed Christians make about anything to do with mental illness. Most people who are to the point that they will consider killing themselves are not "healthy".

This is the argument that says if you have clinical depression caused by a chemical imbalance, you should pray about it, rather than going to a doctor. Of course, no one who makes that argument would even presume to suggest that a person with cancer should just pray about it, and that going to a doctor obviously shows that they don't trust God.

Sorry, but that philosophy just really grinds my gears.

Not saying that you are wrong, because you are right. But don't have too low an opinion of prayer because it works.

**redbaron** · 07-03-2007, 11:06 AM

I agree. It's hard to espouse both at once. I have seen prayer work countless times. I simply think it's unwise for christians to dismiss medical problems as "you're in sin" or "you're not praying enough" etc simply because being sick inside your brain is "scary" or "weird", and obviously it is some sort of spiritual problem.

**MtlMom** · 07-03-2007, 11:02 PM

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I agree. It's hard to espouse both at once. I have seen prayer work countless times. I simply think it's unwise for christians to dismiss medical problems as "you're in sin" or "you're not praying enough" etc simply because being sick inside your brain is "scary" or "weird", and obviously it is some sort of spiritual problem.

So true. You rarely hear people trying to pursuade a person with diabetes to stop taking their insulin and pray harder - but if the person is clinically depressed they are often accused of not having enough faith.

bobthecockroach · 07-03-2007, 11:04 PM

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So true. You rarely hear people trying to pursuade a person with diabetes to stop taking their insulin and pray harder - but if the person is clinically depressed they are often accused of not having enough faith.

Which is something the Christian community desperately needs to rectify.

07-04-2007, 09:30 AM

You guys all need to go and get saved. Your all wrong, and from the Devil. You crazy morons.

Indo_Dave · 07-04-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dingbat

You guys all need to go and get saved. Your all wrong, and from the Devil. You crazy morons.

Yeah man, just maybe not so intense...

Haha funny.

**Sean** · 07-04-2007, 03:08 PM

Is anyone asking for advise in this forum? It looks like a theological question/topic to me. Unless someone can give me a good reason why this should stay here, I'm going to ship it off to theology later today.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-04-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Indo_Dave

Yeah man, just maybe not so intense...

Haha funny.

that trolling will not be tolerated. I know it was you posting above. IPs match. That sort of stuff is not tolerated here.

heisouronlyhope · 07-04-2007, 08:31 PM

Who are we to judge who will go to heaven and hell?, God is the one to Judge, if we are born again we will go to Heaven but if their are sins we haven't asked for forgiveness we will be judged, the bible says not to commit murder, but isn't Suicide killing yourself murder? how can you ask for forgiveness when you no longer live?

I think if you commit suicide you will be judged on that...but besides that I think you would go to Heaven if your born again.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 07-04-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Is anyone asking for advise in this forum? It looks like a theological question/topic to me. Unless someone can give me a good reason why this should stay here, I'm going to ship it off to theology later today.

I am going to ask that it stay. The subject matter is related more to advice than it is to pure theology. Even though it is a theological question, it fits the tone of this forum better.

bobthecockroach · 07-04-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by heisouronlyhope

Who are we to judge who will go to heaven and hell?, God is the one to Judge, if we are born again we will go to Heaven but if their are sins we haven't asked for forgiveness we will be judged, the bible says not to commit murder, but isn't Suicide killing yourself murder? how can you ask for forgiveness when you no longer live?

I think if you commit suicide you will be judged on that...but besides that I think you would go to Heaven if your born again.

Have you read the thread? Several people, including myself, have addressed this question.