Kenneth Copeland

doulos777 · 06-05-2007, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wjarmusch

You're right...if this paper is completely correct, he sounds like he's got some major flaws. However, I think it is super-biased. Because personally, I've been listening to him for quite a while, I even went to a weeklong conference to hear him & others preach. I've NEVER heard him say anything nearly as illogical as what is accused in this article. I've never heard him talk about most of the things they accuse him of being wrong on. Maybe something he has preached on...but certianly not an on-going thing from what I can tell.
To prove my point, look at the article's citations and the dates. Nearly ALL of them are in the 80's or early 90's. He's definitely grown as a man of God since then. We all think, believe, and say stupid stuff at one time. Now, if you show me something recent...I'd be more inclined to believe you.

As you can see, the earliest dated refrence is 1991. This is one of the reasons you should post your own work instead of a bunch of articles. Stuff you find on the internet can be very out-dated.

That I agree with what they teach...sorry topic originated in the other thread.

I agree that we have all said bone-headed things... but not all of us say bone headed things and then claim that God Himself told us about them.

That would not be an error, would be either deception or dementia.

doulos777 · 06-05-2007, 06:34 AM

There are a lot of posters on this site who think that we are not to judge other believers, but Ezekiel 3:18 (and onward) tells us that if we know that someone else is in wickedness and we do not warn him and he dies in his sin, then their blood is upon us.

If we know our Bibles and the context from which Copeland's statements come, then we know that what he teaches is false. Most of his loyal followers seem to be somewhat illiterate when it comes to Scripture and the entire message of these passages that he uses as proof texts for his more outlandish claims.

**Role Modlin** · 06-05-2007, 09:06 AM

You want recent Copeland heresies?

HERE

Ax · 06-05-2007, 11:32 AM

I thought it was funny that after watching that video on youtube the first recommended similar video was "Leatherface Vs. Jason".

That video was, however, the most heretical video I've ever watched.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 06-13-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wjarmusch

Well, I've got to admit a lot of that looks quite condemning. If that's truly what he meant when he said some of that...I question some of his ideas. I'd be interested to read some of the stuff he said and see what he was talking about when he said it. By defending him I'm NOT saying I agree with everything he's ever said. The interesting part, is that in everything I've heard and read...I've never come across ANY of these statements.
I am impressed that there are citations for everything. I'll have to investigate it before I give an answer.

But, I'm not backing down on what I believe as far as the "Faith" message or "Prosperity" teachings. I disagree with this part of the article:

As far as #1, I agree to a degree that we're not to be lead by feelings or logic, but the Holy Spirit & the word of God.

#2, if he's had God reveal these things to him, then who am I to disagree with him. The scripture where Jesus says "upon this rock I build my church" talks about 'revelation knowlege' if you go back to the greek. I'm not good enough in greek to tell you how and why off the top of my head.

It definitely makes me want to look into it further though.

A lot of Protestants may hate me for this, but I have had 2 Protestant Greek teachers who say it refers directly to Peter. The idea that it refers to revelation knowledge is a lie that you have been told. Its not in the Greek and Jesus is not talking about revelation knowledge. Generally speaking its taken one of 3 ways. That Jesus is speaking reffering to Peter, Peter's confession that Jesus is Christ, or Christ himself. Those are the only three possibilities.