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Old 04-17-2007, 03:00 PM   #1
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Looking at an Orange Tiny Terror...

Tell me, will a 15w head with a 4x12 cab blow the doors off a 15w 1x12 combo like a Fender Blues Jr?

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This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:09 PM   #2
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Tell me, will a 15w head with a 4x12 cab blow the doors off a 15w 1x12 combo like a Fender Blues Jr?
All things being equal, a 15W head into a 4x12 should give a greater perceived volume because of the increased surface area of the speakers which will translate into more air being moved.

I actually took a Crate GFX-15 (8" speaker) and ran it into a Mesa 4x12" once. I can't recall if it was actually louder, but the sound was much fuller and certainly seemed louder to me.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:11 PM   #3
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How did you plug a combo into a cab without the multi-ohm outputs?
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:37 AM   #4
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I use a 15 watt(10" speaker) amp as a head through a 4x12, and it is much louder than just the ten.
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How did you plug a combo into a cab without the multi-ohm outputs?
With that particular combo there's an external speaker output that cuts off the internal speaker.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:38 AM   #6
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Okay, that makes sense. I think I'll start saving my pennies then...

What cab would you recommend?
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Okay, that makes sense. I think I'll start saving my pennies then...

What cab would you recommend?
a matching orange cab? haha

the internal speaker on the Blues Jr. is 8 ohms. Have you considered disconnecting it and running the Blues Jr. into an 8 ohm cabinet?
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the internal speaker on the Blues Jr. is 8 ohms. Have you considered disconnecting it and running the Blues Jr. into an 8 ohm cabinet?
Is he going for more volume, or does he want the Orange because it may be a better amp?
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Is he going for more volume, or does he want the Orange because it may be a better amp?
No idea. the initial post in this thread seems to indicate more of a question of volume than tone...though I suspect it's both.
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No idea. the initial post in this thread seems to indicate more of a question of volume than tone...though I suspect it's both.
THat was what I thought as well.
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I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
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I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?
I wouldn't exactly call the Blues Jr thin sounding. I had one, and it had a very thick clean sound.
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I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?
yes...I will buy it for you with all the money that I don't have right now...
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I wouldn't exactly call the Blues Jr thin sounding. I had one, and it had a very thick clean sound.
I didn't feel it was thin either when I used one for a church service or two. Really though, I think the Blues Jr. and the Tiny Terror are voiced to be very different amps.
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yes...I will buy it for you with all the money that I don't have right now...
I don't think that would go over well with Mrs. TheSteve
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I don't think that would go over well with Mrs. TheSteve
haha...precisely why I'm buying it with the money I don't have. Hopefully the local Orange dealer accepts non-existent payment backed by nothing.
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