04-17-2007, 03:00 PM
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#1 | | Moderator
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| Looking at an Orange Tiny Terror... Tell me, will a 15w head with a 4x12 cab blow the doors off a 15w 1x12 combo like a Fender Blues Jr?
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Originally Posted by gtrdave The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
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04-17-2007, 03:09 PM
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#2 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by nbfan Tell me, will a 15w head with a 4x12 cab blow the doors off a 15w 1x12 combo like a Fender Blues Jr? | All things being equal, a 15W head into a 4x12 should give a greater perceived volume because of the increased surface area of the speakers which will translate into more air being moved.
I actually took a Crate GFX-15 (8" speaker) and ran it into a Mesa 4x12" once. I can't recall if it was actually louder, but the sound was much fuller and certainly seemed louder to me. |
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04-17-2007, 03:11 PM
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| How did you plug a combo into a cab without the multi-ohm outputs?
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by gtrdave The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight. | |
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04-18-2007, 12:37 AM
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#4 | | It's over 9000!!!!!!!
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| I use a 15 watt(10" speaker) amp as a head through a 4x12, and it is much louder than just the ten. |
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04-18-2007, 01:19 AM
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#5 | | Algebraic!
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Originally Posted by nbfan How did you plug a combo into a cab without the multi-ohm outputs? | With that particular combo there's an external speaker output that cuts off the internal speaker. |
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04-18-2007, 07:38 AM
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| Okay, that makes sense. I think I'll start saving my pennies then...
What cab would you recommend?
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by gtrdave The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight. | |
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04-18-2007, 09:28 AM
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#7 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by nbfan Okay, that makes sense. I think I'll start saving my pennies then...
What cab would you recommend? | a matching orange cab? haha
the internal speaker on the Blues Jr. is 8 ohms. Have you considered disconnecting it and running the Blues Jr. into an 8 ohm cabinet? |
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04-18-2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by thesteve the internal speaker on the Blues Jr. is 8 ohms. Have you considered disconnecting it and running the Blues Jr. into an 8 ohm cabinet? | Is he going for more volume, or does he want the Orange because it may be a better amp?
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04-18-2007, 01:14 PM
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#9 | | Algebraic!
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Originally Posted by ieatdirt Is he going for more volume, or does he want the Orange because it may be a better amp? | No idea. the initial post in this thread seems to indicate more of a question of volume than tone...though I suspect it's both. |
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04-18-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thesteve No idea. the initial post in this thread seems to indicate more of a question of volume than tone...though I suspect it's both. | THat was what I thought as well.
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04-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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| I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by gtrdave The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight. | |
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04-18-2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nbfan I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?  | I wouldn't exactly call the Blues Jr thin sounding. I had one, and it had a very thick clean sound.
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04-18-2007, 01:38 PM
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#13 | | Algebraic!
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Originally Posted by nbfan I've heard that the Blues Jr has a real thin tone. Not really what I want, if that's the case. And I'd love to buy an Orange 1x12. Would you be willing to buy it for me, TS?  | yes...I will buy it for you with all the money that I don't have right now... Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanez_dude I wouldn't exactly call the Blues Jr thin sounding. I had one, and it had a very thick clean sound. | I didn't feel it was thin either when I used one for a church service or two. Really though, I think the Blues Jr. and the Tiny Terror are voiced to be very different amps. |
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04-18-2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thesteve yes...I will buy it for you with all the money that I don't have right now...  | I don't think that would go over well with Mrs. TheSteve
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04-18-2007, 02:28 PM
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#15 | | Algebraic!
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Originally Posted by RipVanWinkle I don't think that would go over well with Mrs. TheSteve | haha...precisely why I'm buying it with the money I don't have. Hopefully the local Orange dealer accepts non-existent payment backed by nothing. |
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