Birth Control

tropicana · 04-04-2007, 04:27 PM

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Right now, the most effective is one of the IUDs (forget which one), but those are only used post-pregnancy.

Depending on the woman and what her gyno thinks, IUDs can be used on women who have never been pregnant. And I think the one you're referring to is the Minerva; in addition to being an IUD, it releases estrogen. These are probably the most cost-effective form of birth control, since they're good for about five years. But I've heard that there can be nasty side effects (dysmenorrhea, heavier periods, displacement of the device), and, as with all forms of birth control, you can still get pregnant.

If you're planning on using something like a sponge, a cervical cap or a diaphragm, know that these use spermicide, too. Lots of people can have very unpleasant reactions to it, so before you commit to having a diaphragm fitted, find out if either of you are allergic to it.

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slap_j

There's only one kind of sexual activity that results in people getting pregnant. Would you say that if a married couple wants to be intimate without risking pregnancy they should:

a) shun birth control while
b) exploring other avenues of sexual expression?

Or would you say no sexual contact unless it could be fruitful in terms of a child?

I say a Christian married couple should be open to the possibility that God will bless them with a child. Children really are blessings.

Dr. Worm · 04-04-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KFBobInsanesMom

The difference is that one is natural and one is not. Women do get pregnant on the pill. One of the mechanisms of birth control pills makes the uterus inhospitable to implantation. Conception occurs, but then the child is aborted because it cannot implant. While this may not occur frequently, 1 time of killing a baby is enough for me to reject the pill as a viable Christian form of birth control. (Of course, that is my opinion)

Who said you would have kids asap?? Women do not get pregnant every time they have sex. It's also a misconception that not using bith control means you will have dozens of kids. Some people do, some don't. It simply means that you allow God to decide when to give you a child instead of taking it into your own hands. I, personally, trust God's judgement over my own any day of the week.

The idea of not being able to care for children also strikes me as odd. You don't need to be rich to care for a child. All the preparations in the world are no guarantee of tomorrow. Kids for the first year of their life don't require much. A couple dozen cloth diapers, a drawer full of clothes (which you can pick up at garage sales for pennies), a place to sleep, and a mom nursing them. Other than the hospital bill, they really are cheap for the first year.

If two Christians are not ready for all marriage entails (including the possiblity of having a baby), then it would be wise to wait to get married.

I guarantee you that if God choses to give you a child 9 months after you are married, that it is the right time for you to have a child. He really does know what He is doing.

This sounds to me a lot like saying "A christian shouldn't look both ways before crossing the street. If God chooses for you to get run over by a car, he obviously knows better than you do your appointed time to die."

tropicana · 04-04-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Worm

This sounds to me a lot like saying "A christian shouldn't look both ways before crossing the street. If God chooses for you to get run over by a car, he obviously knows better than you do your appointed time to die."

On the other hand, if God knows it's your time to die in that situation, you will be hit by a car regardless of whether or not you look before crossing the street.
With birth control, you can still get pregnant. The pill and IUDs are not 100% effective, nor do they claim to be. If God is planning for you to have a child, wouldn't you have one whether you are using birth control or not?

**Sean** · 04-04-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zboy4God

I don't think any one should use Birth Control.its like saying to God, I don't trust you enough to decide when I have a baby or how Manny kids I'll have.maybe is just because I'm from a family of 11, and cant see my life with out my siblings..

I cant say where in the bible it says its not exeptibble...but if you think about it,God isn't going to give you more then you can handle....

The problem is that you can apply this logic to anything. "I'm not going to get insurance because I trust God and He won't give me more than I handle."

Beyond that, you can look to the countless teenage pregancies every year. In some sense, they might be able to handle it, but it's certainly not a good situation.

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Worm

This sounds to me a lot like saying "A christian shouldn't look both ways before crossing the street. If God chooses for you to get run over by a car, he obviously knows better than you do your appointed time to die."

Not getting hit by a car is not called a "blessing and gift" from God, children are. Oh, they are also rewards.

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tropicana

On the other hand, if God knows it's your time to die in that situation, you will be hit by a car regardless of whether or not you look before crossing the street.
With birth control, you can still get pregnant. The pill and IUDs are not 100% effective, nor do they claim to be. If God is planning for you to have a child, wouldn't you have one whether you are using birth control or not?

Well, that seems to me to be saying to God "if you really insist on blessing me, then go around what I am doing to stop you".

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

The problem is that you can apply this logic to anything. "I'm not going to get insurance because I trust God and He won't give me more than I handle."

Beyond that, you can look to the countless teenage pregancies every year. In some sense, they might be able to handle it, but it's certainly not a good situation.

Are those children any less a blessing?

Dr. Worm · 04-04-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KFBobInsanesMom

Not getting hit by a car is not called a "blessing and gift" from God, children are. Oh, they are also rewards.

That God gives you life is not a blessing and a gift?

**slap_j** · 04-04-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KFBobInsanesMom

I say a Christian married couple should be open to the possibility that God will bless them with a child. Children really are blessings.

Are you saying that the pleasure in sex is part and parcel to the propagation of humanity? Not trying to put words in your mouth but I'm not sure what your response means exactly. My youngest brother is adopted and I'm sure he was as much a blessing to my mom as the children she gave birth to were. I think a couple could be open to the possibility that God will bless them with a child while not expecting it to come via sexual relations.

danalyn · 04-04-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

Hmm. I actually hadn't considered this, but its certainly a legitimate "inconvenience"...I was mostly thinking of the whole, "oh they're a pain" excuse. has it been the case in general with condoms or just with certain types?

we've found that to be the case in general.

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by slap_j

Are you saying that the pleasure in sex is part and parcel to the propagation of humanity? Not trying to put words in your mouth but I'm not sure what your response means exactly. My youngest brother is adopted and I'm sure he was as much a blessing to my mom as the children she gave birth to were. I think a couple could be open to the possibility that God will bless them with a child while not expecting it to come via sexual relations.

No, I'm saying children are a blessing from God and should be thought of as such. I agree, any child God gives you is a blessing. I just find it odd that people deliberately attempt to stop God from blessing them.

KFBobInsanesMom · 04-04-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Worm

That God gives you life is not a blessing and a gift?

Not getting hit by a car is not the same as God giving me life. God specifically calls children rewards, blessing, a heritage......I'm not going to argue with Him.

domnastics · 04-04-2007, 07:21 PM

Would it be too sensitive to ask the married people here what you use personally (if you use anything) and why or why not?

leiarose · 04-04-2007, 07:27 PM

I am getting married soon so this is something we have to decide on as well, domnastics. One of the methods I have been researching is the Norplant II (Jadelle). It supposedly lasts from 3-5 years with great success. I have been reading that it is not an abortive, unlike the "pill". It seems fairly easy to use and the few hundred dollars to get started is very much worth it. All of that from what I can say so far.