Who's gonna win the national title?

nestamanchris · 01-01-2002, 02:57 AM

All right, who's it gonna be in the Rose Bowl... Miami or Nebraska? I'm pickin the Canes.

Only 6 hours until the Outback Bowl. GO GAMECOCKS!!

RunningOnEmpty · 01-01-2002, 01:20 PM

This isn't even gonna be a game. Nebraska might as well not even show up...they are gonna get embarrased. They shouldn't even be there. Oh well, the BCS stinks!

Trojan72 · 01-02-2002, 09:01 AM

Miami will destroy UN. FSU 30 - VT 17 Go Noles!

Maybe off the subject, but here's my suggestion for an NCAA Playoff....

Take the top 8 teams, strictly by their record. If there's a tie, have the ties play each other before the playoffs begin. Now, take those top 8 teams and put them in the Orange, Fiesta, Rose, and Sugar Bowls. Take the winners, and put them in say the Orange and Fiesta, and take the winners there and put them in the Rose for the championship game. This system works well because you don't have to eliminate bowls, the season is only 3-4 games longer, and you can still rotate the title game from bowl to bowl like we do now. Comments?

RunningOnEmpty · 01-02-2002, 09:38 AM

Have you been talking to my dad? He suggested this (almost exactly!) at dinner on Sunday.

I guess great minds think alike. (My daddy's the smartest!)

01-02-2002, 09:41 AM

Bad idea. What was BYU's record? Should BYU be in the Rose Bowl? No.

nestamanchris · 01-02-2002, 11:34 AM

Well, BYU wasn't ranked in the top 8, so they wouldn't have made Trojan's proposed playoff system. Even if they had made it they would've been knocked off early on, so the system would still prove itself. Then again, if they won out in a system like this they would prove they deserved to be the champions by beating three other highly rated teams.

guyforGod · 01-02-2002, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Trojan72
Miami will destroy UN. FSU 30 - VT 17 Go Noles!

Maybe off the subject, but here's my suggestion for an NCAA Playoff....

Take the top 8 teams, strictly by their record. If there's a tie, have the ties play each other before the playoffs begin. Now, take those top 8 teams and put them in the Orange, Fiesta, Rose, and Sugar Bowls. Take the winners, and put them in say the Orange and Fiesta, and take the winners there and put them in the Rose for the championship game. This system works well because you don't have to eliminate bowls, the season is only 3-4 games longer, and you can still rotate the title game from bowl to bowl like we do now. Comments?

no

go back to the old system... yes there was controversy from time to time but at least then there were HUMANS determining who was the national championship and who had a chance for it instead of COMPUTERS. We don't need a playoff system. There would be just as much controversy in that as there is in the BCS.

Trojan72 · 01-02-2002, 10:03 PM

any kind of controversy is eliminated in this system. Maryland lost, so much for ACC sucess.

cowboy · 01-02-2002, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by guyforGod
We don't need a playoff system. There would be just as much controversy in that as there is in the BCS.

Is it humanly possible to create more controversy than the BCS has already created? At least then there would be more teams that actually have a shot at the title. For instance, in the NFL last year, neither Baltimore nor New York would have been playing for the title. In a playoff system, anything can happen.

RunningOnEmpty · 01-03-2002, 01:06 PM

<< Anything can happen >>

Yeah, like too long of a season so more players are at risk of injury. Or cut back on the games in season so teams won't be able to play outside their conferences - eliminating some historical rivalries.

You can debate all day long about a playoff system, but the way things stand right now, with the bowl system (not necessarily the BCS - just bowl games in general) a lot of schools AND corporations make a LOT of $$$$. It's gonna take a lot to change that.

guyforGod · 01-03-2002, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by cowboy

In a playoff system, anything can happen.

so does that mean that the BEST team doesn't always win in a playoff system?

nestamanchris · 01-03-2002, 03:28 PM

I'm more against a playoff than the BCS, myself. I think a playoff would produce a more reliable champion, but it'd take more from the game than it would give back. I like Brian's idea of going back to the way it was. I also like what someone on ESPN said today that would've changed the BCS picture drastically and that's give a BCS point bonus to the teams that are conference champions. Then again that would've put a 2 loss Colorado team in the Rose bowl instead an obviously more deserving Oregon team. Either way... Go Canes!

Hellfighter · 01-03-2002, 03:29 PM

miami

guyforGod · 01-03-2002, 03:38 PM

oh yeah

to answer the original question:

MIAMI!

(never thought i'd root for a florida team.... time for me to go puke....)

SCCdcTFreak · 01-03-2002, 03:42 PM

My heart wants Nebraska to win, just 'cuz that would mess things up even more for the BCS determining the champ, but also if Nebraska just gets pummeled, you could say "Well, what if Oregon played Miami instead?" If Miami wins a close game, then the BCS people will just be like, "Well, at least we determined the right team for #1" DUH

I can't really see how anyone thinks a playoff system would cause more problems than the BCS -- that's just impossible. I mean, nobody argued whether Baltimore deserved the Lombardi Trophy last year after they won, 'cuz they went through FOUR great teams last season in order to win it. Remember, best record does not always mean best team. BYU only lost one game this season, but that does not make them any better than Colorado with 2, Texas with 2, Oklahoma with 2, Florida with 2, etc. We have all these arguments lately about who should play who and where, and a playoff system would be the only way to get rid of that. Incorporate the bowls into this, and then you could even go one step further, and if you want all those bowls that nobody watches like the Liquid Drane-O Toilet Bowl or whatever you wanna call 'em and let the teams that didn't make the playoffs play in those. You would still be making money for the schools that aren't competing and for the people organizing the bowls. I don't see how this system would fail. It pleases everyone.

Well, that's my humble opinion, which is definitely better than the garbage we've got now. One thing is, though that the BCS will be around at least another 7 years, 'cuz that's when the contract to use it runs out. I only hope we can make it that long before we all go crazy.

In Him,
† <>< Stephen