Christian Colleges?

jengoesup · 03-12-2007, 04:32 PM

Here's a thread I started a while ago when I was making the decision between a secular or Christian college.

sportsman123 · 03-12-2007, 05:11 PM

do Christian colleges offer as much choices in majors or degrees as some public schools?

**Sean** · 03-12-2007, 05:16 PM

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do Christian colleges offer as much choices in majors or degrees as some public schools?

Depends...there is no one answer to that question. I large secular college will obviously have more options than a small Christian college.

sportsman123 · 03-12-2007, 05:18 PM

so really, the choice is up to me? there will always be some kind of Christian program at a college?

**thesteve** · 03-12-2007, 05:18 PM

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do Christian colleges offer as much choices in majors or degrees as some public schools?

it varies from school to school, which is why you can't lump all Christian colleges and universities together.

**Sean** · 03-12-2007, 05:36 PM

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there will always be some kind of Christian program at a college?

No not necessarily. However, if you go to any large college in the South there most likely will be a number of Christian organizations.

**thesteve** · 03-12-2007, 05:52 PM

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No not necessarily. However, if you go to any large college in the South there most likely will be a number of Christian organizations.

Yep, most college campuses in general have some sort of Christian group where it's Campus Crusade for Christ or InterVarsity Fellowship.

LefseRae · 03-12-2007, 05:53 PM

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You arbitrarily decided that there is only one of their unbiblical rules you don't approve of? You approve of rules which up until very recently forbid interacial dating?

I've read the rules. I approve of the CURRENT rules. And no, I don't approve of the interacial dating rule.

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They're both uber-conservative and moralistic. Like most Christian colleges they have Christian living standards. They are notorious for having the most strict standards. Until the year 2000 BJU forbid interracial dating. I don't know if its still the case, but for a long time Pensecola had blue and pink sidewalks...one for guys and the other for girls. They couldn't walk down the same sidewalk. They also don't allow you to date without a chaperone. And the ever popular,staring into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex, called by students "eye kissing", "optical intercourse", or "making eye babies", is discouraged by the administration

Perhaps they may be too strict, however, I would rather go to a college that was too strict than to one that was too lax.

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Their rules are far more represenative of southern moralism than any Biblical form of sactification.

That is such a ridiculous statement that I'm not even going to reply to it.

As for the racial issue at BJU, for-cryin'-out-loud they're only human! And in the South! :kduh: Christians have had racist problems from the beginning of Christianity. Is it right? No. Is it going to go away soon? No. Was BJU right in instituting that policy? No. Did they DROP the policy because it wasn't right? YES.

SccHarpGirl · 03-12-2007, 06:23 PM

There are some excellent Christian schools out there, though, but a lot varies on what your grades/test scores are like and what areas you are interested in studying.

What I would recommend is to search realistically based on where you want to live, what sort of school you want to attend, where you could realistically be admitted, how much financian burden can you assume (and are you eligible for scholarships), and definitely what you want to study (at least roughly...do you want to do interpretive dance or astrophysics?). That will narrow your choices of what schools (both Christian and nonchristian) that will be good for you.

I'd second the recommendation of www.princetonreview.com or their related books...it's a great source to get info on colleges. If it's still in operation I know when I was searching I used www.collegeconfidential.com a bit as well. It's a message board where you can talk to other current and prospective students, both in general and about specific schools.

Good luck!

Insane Drummer · 03-12-2007, 06:30 PM

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As for the racial issue at BJU, for-cryin'-out-loud they're only human! And in the South! :kduh: Christians have had racist problems from the beginning of Christianity. Is it right? No. Is it going to go away soon? No. Was BJU right in instituting that policy? No. Did they DROP the policy because it was right? YES.

There is no room what so ever in any Christian institution for racism. They dropped the policy most likely so they didn't get their ass sued off... I would rank racism as one of the five most disgusting attitudes ever.

I think Sean's assessment is the perfect one, anyway.

Gwenny · 03-12-2007, 06:30 PM

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That is such a ridiculous statement that I'm not even going to reply to it.

I agree with Sean on that actually. It may be ridiculous to you, but not to most.

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As for the racial issue at BJU, for-cryin'-out-loud they're only human!

So you're saying it's okay for BJU to be racist, because "for-cryin'-out loud they are only human"? And you think that is acceptable? Seriously? THAT is a ridiculous statement if I ever saw one. In fact it is ludicrous.

I think you are just upset, because the people in this thread aren't agreeing you with on BJU or PCC's policies/rules.

LefseRae · 03-12-2007, 07:03 PM

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So you're saying it's okay for BJU to be racist, because "for-cryin'-out loud they are only human"? And you think that is acceptable? Seriously? THAT is a ridiculous statement if I ever saw one. In fact it is ludicrous.

NO. I'm saying that it is human to sin, and that BJU is human (well, okay, the PEOPLE are.

). Come on, they revoked the policy! And I know of SEVERAL couples ON STAFF who are interacial!
I think you are just upset, because the people in this thread aren't agreeing you with on BJU or PCC's policies/rules.[/QUOTE]

I'm not upset. Okay, yes I am. I'm upset with the judgmental attitude I see being displayed towards BJU and PCC. I don't know about PCC, but I do know that BJU staff and higher-ups are sincere, dedicated, God-fearing Christians. And the policies are what they believe God wants. It's not legalism in the case of BJU.

Just a side note, does anyone know how the interacial dating policy actually came about? My mom was told this by someone who worked there. I can't remember the name of the country or the ruler, but the ruler for an Asian country was a Christian and he wanted his people to go to the US, go to college, and come back to better his country. He asked Bob Jones, Sr. to implement a no dating other races policy so that his people wouldn't fall in love over there and get married and not come back. And BJU was dumb enough to agree. Yeah, they made a stupid move. But they've reversed it. (and I will try to get documentation for you.)

Gwenny · 03-12-2007, 07:27 PM

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NO. I'm saying that it is human to sin, and that BJU is human (well, okay, the PEOPLE are.

). Come on, they revoked the policy! And I know of SEVERAL couples ON STAFF who are interacial!

So because they revoked the policy, BJU is suddenly acceptable? I don't think so.
And the racial issue is not the only issue I disagree with at BJU. You may love it, and agree whole heartedly, but I would rather go to a christian school that is more leniant than one who decides that if you listen to CCM you are going to hell or are a heathen. Or if you go to see a movie rated over G you will expelled. BJU is overly strict, and while some may agree with it, I do not.

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I'm not upset. Okay, yes I am. I'm upset with the judgmental attitude I see being displayed towards BJU and PCC.

Just because I don't agree, does not mean I have a "judgmental" attitude. You need to learn that just because people don't agree with you, doesn't make them judgemntal or wrong. It is a person's opinion, which they are entitled to have. Just because people don't agree with you, does not mean you have the right to judge other people on their opinion.

**Sean** · 03-12-2007, 07:40 PM

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I've read the rules. I approve of the CURRENT rules. And no, I don't approve of the interacial dating rule.

Right but the same line of thought that led them to have rules about interracial dating led to the current rules.

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Perhaps they may be too strict, however, I would rather go to a college that was too strict than to one that was too lax.

Because we need school's regulating behavor. We shouldn't teach people to walk in the Spirit. We should teach them to rely on oppressive rules and fear of being expelled.

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That is such a ridiculous statement that I'm not even going to reply to it.

Name calling typically isn't a terribly convincing argument. How is it ridiculous to find systems that force good behavor through fear of punishment (rather than teaching students to walk in the Spirit) unbiblical?

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As for the racial issue at BJU, for-cryin'-out-loud they're only human! And in the South! :kduh: Christians have had racist problems from the beginning of Christianity. Is it right? No. Is it going to go away soon? No. Was BJU right in instituting that policy? No. Did they DROP the policy because it wasn't right? YES.

But they haven't dropped the line of thinking that led to it. They're still enforcing rules which reflect southern moralism rather than scripture. Southern Culture used to be racist, therefore the school had racist rules. Southern culture tends to be moralistic, therefore the school has moralistic rules.

How is it useful to enforce unbibilical man made rules about what kind of music people can listen to? How is it useful to enforce unbiblical man made rules about how boys and girls interact? Most importantly, how is it useful to teach people to behave out of fear of the deans rather than teaching them to walk in the Spirit?

How are these rules different from the rules that the pharisees created?

SccHarpGirl · 03-12-2007, 07:42 PM

Can we get back on topic? I feel that the BJU/PCC discussion isn't contributing to the OP's question.