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Unread 02-09-2007, 05:27 PM   #1
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Has any one heard of Paul Gilbert?


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Unread 02-10-2007, 11:36 PM   #2
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I guess not.

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Unread 02-11-2007, 07:43 PM   #3
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I really liked Mr. Big...even though he didn't shred as much as he could've.
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Unread 02-11-2007, 07:47 PM   #4
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I'm most definately the best 80's metal guitarist!!!

Oh wait... This isn't a poll...
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Unread 02-11-2007, 07:58 PM   #5
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I'm most definately the best 80's metal guitarist!!!

Oh wait... This isn't a poll...
And then there's the minor detail that you are not, in fact, an 80's metal guitarist in the general sense of the term.
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Unread 02-11-2007, 09:14 PM   #6
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Well, my talent is so abundant that I can be an 80's metal guitarist despite the fact that I was born in 1991.

In fact, here is a video of me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3pFuKwuUdM

I have no idea what this is. It was the first thing I found when searching for "80's metal guitarist" on youtube...
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I have no idea what this is. It was the first thing I found when searching for "80's metal guitarist" on youtube...


I fail to see how a band whose debut album was released in 2005 can be considered "80's metal."
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I fail to see how a band whose debut album was released in 2005 can be considered "80's metal."
Do I need to quote myself?

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Well, my talent is so abundant that I can be an 80's metal guitarist despite the fact that I was born in 1991.
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Unread 02-11-2007, 10:14 PM   #9
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Do I need to quote myself?
I'm still not entirely sure that I agree with your logic.

Anyway, to make this a bit less cheap...
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I've never heard of him before. I'm not really into metal that much. But he's pretty freaking good. The bit with the drill is a bit over-the-top, I think.
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Unread 02-11-2007, 11:30 PM   #10
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Please do.
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Has any one heard of Paul Gilbert?
You mean the guy in the pic?

Yes. I still have the first Racer X record from many moons ago and I also worked on Paul's "Alligator Farm" disc a couple years back.
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Gilbert's "shredding" in that video are basic scales. The drill thing isn't anything special either. Eddie VanHalen did it years before.

The true shredder in Mr. Big was the bass player, Billy Shean (SP) who is also the bass player for Steve Vai.
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Unread 02-12-2007, 09:23 AM   #13
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If you play 80's metal, you are an 80's metal guitarist, surely. Trivium certainly harks back to Metallica.
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Gilbert's "shredding" in that video are basic scales. The drill thing isn't anything special either. Eddie VanHalen did it years before.

The true shredder in Mr. Big was the bass player, Billy Shean (SP) who is also the bass player for Steve Vai.
Bassic scales?
Arpeggios are not scales. Trills are not scales. The interval distances that are being played in some of what he's doing in that video are not scales.

Do you have proof of EVH playing with a drill prior to Gilbert?
This source claims otherwise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundcake

Both Billy Sheehan and PG would be classified as shredders. Neither is more "true" than the other.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...69911221730998

Not bad for a guy who self-admittedly can not play flamenco.
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Bassic scales?
Arpeggios are not scales. Trills are not scales. The interval distances that are being played in some of what he's doing in that video are not scales.

Do you have proof of EVH playing with a drill prior to Gilbert?
This source claims otherwise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundcake

Both Billy Sheehan and PG would be classified as shredders. Neither is more "true" than the other.


You can call it Arpeggios, interval distances etc., etc., theory talk, and I’ve read tons of theory, but all it is are basic scale box patterns linked together in a simple manner in key and it's easy to do and sound impressive, specially when you're the only one playing.

It's also easy to do when playing with a band. I don't claim to be able to copy anyone's solo, but from studying different players, scales, notes on the guitar's neck and theory books I figured out how to dive into any tune and use scales to do what he's doing. All I have to do is know the key and key changes during the tune.

It's absolutely hilarious when someone attempts to turn guitar playing into something that has to be impossible unless you're drowned in theory terms when the most important thing is your ability to control what your left hand is doing. You can either make the guitar talk or you can't, how you verbalize it is irrelevant.

Further, what’s written on the net if far from set in stone and while growing up I heard and saw EVH use the drill before anyone knew who Paul Gilbert was and way before there was a Paul Gilbert, Billy Shean was shredding bass.

Playing guitar is really a long long way from rocket science, don't try to make it more complicated than it is.
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