[Lightknight]

This question has been on my mind for awhile now. Under the parameters of evolution, how is the diversity of the gene pool explained? Especially if we are descended from single celled organisms (albeit initially ones without DNA).

I mean, I understand with religions the interaction of God and the miracle of life, but I don't understand it in science. I hope someone understands what I'm asking. I understand how genes and such are passed on, so we can talk in these terms.

[TheProdigalModern]

Originally Posted by Lightknight

This question has been on my mind for awhile now. Under the parameters of evolution, how is the diversity of the gene pool explained? Especially if we are descended from single celled organisms (albeit initially ones without DNA).

Compatible mutations?

[meatfinger]

Originally Posted by Vershal

Compatible mutations?

times billions of years.

[Lightknight]

Is that it? Is that all the responses?

So compatible mutations over billions of years gave us the diversity we have today in the gene pool? How old is life supposed to be on earth, anyways? How exactly did the gene pool get deeper? How does a mutation have such a large effect on the gene pool?

[TheProdigalModern]

Originally Posted by Lightknight

So compatible mutations over billions of years gave us the diversity we have today in the gene pool? How old is life supposed to be on earth, anyways? How exactly did the gene pool get deeper? How does a mutation have such a large effect on the gene pool?

Billions of years is time for a lot of mutations.

The same effect would apply to Adam and Eve. If all human life is descended from them, then human biology would just as dependent on mutation to add some color into the gene pool. It would all just take place at a slightly accelerated pace.

Now, if you're talking about the gene pool of the entire biosphere, it gets a little mind-boggling.

[Lightknight]

Is it a lot of time for COMPATIBLE mutations? You know, a male mutation and a female mutation both coming from an A-sexual being? Not to mention both being in the same place as the same time AND both having the natural programing to use that method of sexual reproduction?

Do tell.

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Lightknight

Is it a lot of time for COMPATIBLE mutations? You know, a male mutation and a female mutation both coming from an A-sexual being?

Asexual beings are female.

Not to mention both being in the same place as the same time AND both having the natural programing to use that method of sexual reproduction?

Nope. The programming would have been the same regardless. You need the ability to transmit genetic material and the function to use that ability.

It took several billion years to actually happen.

[Lightknight]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

Asexual beings are female.

Were they?

Nope. The programming would have been the same regardless. You need the ability to transmit genetic material and the function to use that ability.

So someday, something just "poof" became male and knew how to use it and the females were all able to recieve this from a male? Sketchy.

[bobthecockroach]

[uneducatedresponse]
What about the problems of people with similar genes mating (for lack of a more suitable term)? Wouldn't they just be even worse with a smaller, MUCH smaller gene pool?
[/uneducatedresponse]

[TheProdigalModern]

Originally Posted by Lightknight

So someday, something just "poof" became male and knew how to use it and the females were all able to recieve this from a male? Sketchy.

The jump from asexual to sexual reproduction has always puzzled me, but I'm not as hardline an evolutionist as I sometimes appear. My view of creation doesn't actually go back to the level of protiens, I don't think.

I can always shrug my shoulders and say, "God made it happen."

[wjarmusch]

Originally Posted by bobthecockroach

[uneducatedresponse]
What about the problems of people with similar genes mating (for lack of a more suitable term)? Wouldn't they just be even worse with a smaller, MUCH smaller gene pool?
[/uneducatedresponse]

To explain that you have to understand the problems of people with similar genes mating. From what i understand the problem with that is that when two people with similar genes mate they have a better chance of each having the same defective/mutated genes. It two people with non-similar genes mate then there's a better chance that one person will have the gene that will make up for the other persons mutated gene. I know that's not a very scientific explanation, but that's the gist of it.

The reason that worked for Adam & Eve is that they didn't have any defective genes, thus no problem. Same for Noah's family, they weren't as far along in the mutations to have a problem. Adam & Eve would have been made with the ENTIRE gene pool for humans in them, and then it was separated & passed down from there. Same for 2 of each kind of animal on Noah's Ark, they would have had all of the gene pool for their kind of animal in them.

I'm posting this after this discussion has been dead for a while because LightKnight has hit the nail on the head. This seems to me the most logical reason that Evolution couldn't have happened (without God). It's the fact that there's no way to come up with the gene pool we have from 1 single-celled organism. There's no evidence that we get 'mutations' that actually add to the gene pool. It's actually just separating & combining what we already have.

[JerryLove]

There's no evidence that we get 'mutations' that actually add to the gene pool. It's actually just separating & combining what we already have.

What about "duplicating then changing" doesn't equal "adding".

CAT
CATCAT
CATTAC
CATTAG

[jrb4him]

ummm did i miss something or did u just ADD a "G" to that at the end?
changing....you can;t just "CHANGE" to a G without the G already being there to change to...

[JerryLove]

ummm did i miss something or did u just ADD a "G" to that at the end?
changing....you can;t just "CHANGE" to a G without the G already being there to change to...

Fortunately, there are pletny of Gs in every DNA strand.

So yes, you most certainly can change to a G in a fragment of DNA. It happens every day.

[jrb4him]

so the very first living creature had all 4 - CATG?