XTL and TM60

CortLegacy · 12-19-2006, 06:19 PM

Rather than hijacking the "Amp for POD XTL" thread I decided to create another just to ask this question:

Should the XTL sound OK running into the effects return on my TM60? I'm in love with this amp and don't want to get rid of it for something else so I'd like to know.

Also, I might decided to turn off amp modeling on my XTL (when I buy one) and just use it for effects. How should I run it then? In front of my amp?

Thanks,
CL

Ryan Freeland · 12-19-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CortLegacy

Rather than hijacking the "Amp for POD XTL" thread I decided to create another just to ask this question:

Should the XTL sound OK running into the effects return on my TM60? I'm in love with this amp and don't want to get rid of it for something else so I'd like to know.

Also, I might decided to turn off amp modeling on my XTL (when I buy one) and just use it for effects. How should I run it then? In front of my amp?

Thanks,
CL

I use mine in the FX loop. Sometimes I use it as the preamp. Just depends on what situation I'm in.

CortLegacy · 12-19-2006, 06:23 PM

So how would I hook it up to my amp? Forgive my ignorance but I've only dealt with single effects before. When would I use it as a preamp, and how would I hook that up?

Ryan Freeland · 12-19-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CortLegacy

So how would I hook it up to my amp? Forgive my ignorance but I've only dealt with single effects before. When would I use it as a preamp, and how would I hook that up?

For using the PODXTL as the preamp:

Guitar -> Pod -> FX Loop Return

For using it just for FX:

Guitar -> Amp
FX send -> Pod -> FX return

CortLegacy · 12-19-2006, 06:26 PM

Ah OK. Thanks for the help. Sounds good.

**Rainer.** · 12-20-2006, 12:17 PM

It has inputs/outputs like any pedal.

Run it through the FX loop, I'd say. It's not too complicated of a device once you actually get it. It'll make perfect sense when you actually have it in front of you.

Hellfighter · 12-20-2006, 02:30 PM

if you are going to use any overdrive/distortion pedal models from it (or anything with signal boost) it is a good idea to run it before the pre-amp.

Casey · 12-20-2006, 09:13 PM

Why would you do that as opposed to just using it for the preamp. If he uses any overdrive or distortion, it's most likely going to be the amp models, and not just the stomp pedals on the POD, in which case, it would probably be best to go through the power amp.

I mean, the POD does have a setting for going in through the input of an amp, but IMO, it's not as good as the power amp in setting.

JaytheK · 12-21-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CortLegacy

Also, I might decided to turn off amp modeling on my XTL (when I buy one) and just use it for effects. How should I run it then? In front of my amp?

You might change your mind about not using the amp modeling once you get your POD XTL. I love the sound of my Peavey Classic 30, and didn't think that I would use the amp modeling on the POD XTL. However, the amp modeling doesn't completely remove your amp's own sound, it more of compliments it. At least that's what I've found with the way I use my guitar/POD XTL/amp combo.

Ryan Freeland · 12-21-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JaytheK

You might change your mind about not using the amp modeling once you get your POD XTL. I love the sound of my Peavey Classic 30, and didn't think that I would use the amp modeling on the POD XTL. However, the amp modeling doesn't completely remove your amp's own sound, it more of compliments it. At least that's what I've found with the way I use my guitar/POD XTL/amp combo.

So do you use both your amp's distortion and XTL distortion at the same time?

JaytheK · 12-21-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Building429_Boy

So do you use both your amp's distortion and XTL distortion at the same time?

No, not the preamp distortion, at least. I go directly into the effects return of my Classic 30. But playing my POD XTL through my amp sounds a little different then playing it through a different amp, which is why I said the POD XTL compliment's my amp's sound.

**thesteve** · 12-21-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JaytheK

No, not the preamp distortion, at least. I go directly into the effects return of my Classic 30. But playing my POD XTL through my amp sounds a little different then playing it through a different amp, which is why I said the POD XTL compliment's my amp's sound.

From what I heard of the POD XT through my guitarist's C50 410, running it in front of the amp definitely put a "C50" tinge on the tones. It wasn't a bad thing, but it was definitely noticeable.

JaytheK · 12-21-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

From what I heard of the POD XT through my guitarist's C50 410, running it in front of the amp definitely put a "C50" tinge on the tones. It wasn't a bad thing, but it was definitely noticeable.

I think my original post came across wrong. I wasn't trying to say that the XTL doesn't model the amps good. The XTL models amps very well, and you can definitely hear the sound of the different amps. That being said, it doesn't completely remove the physical amps sound.

Maybe I'm an idiot and should just shut up.

One thing I do know is that the XTL is totally capable of producing metal sounds, yet my metal loving friends say that my amp has too mellow of a sound for metal. I personally love my amp's warmth, but they say it doesn't sound that good for their type of metal.

Maybe a better evaluation would be that the physical amp compliments the XTL.

Yeah, that's definitely a better description. Sorry for the stupidness on my part earlier.

**thesteve** · 12-21-2006, 12:17 PM

Jay,

I actually wrote my post to agree with what you said. I didn't mean that the POD does a poor job of emulating, simply that, as you noted, it doesnt' completely remove the amp's sound. In my example, the different models sounded great, but they still had a hint of C50 on them.