I am in Love

**Wesley7777** · 11-22-2006, 01:35 PM

With bogner, yep they had a used one at the guitar center for about $2300, the shiva 2x12. Its a 60 watter handed wired running 6L6's. I have heard this were great amps, but never got my hands one one till today. The guy said it was the loudest amp in the store, he was not kdding that thing will cut people heads off in a minute. Man now i am dieing to get my hands on one of this bad boys. So i am pondering selling the mesa for one. though i think i would get the one with EL-34s. Oh it was great. ANyone else try on of these amps?

**Rainer.** · 11-22-2006, 03:52 PM

I'll just get the PODxt model...

thomaspg70 · 11-22-2006, 08:22 PM

Don't you have a Vox AC30 and a Mesa?? That is some serious gas.

sabertooth181 · 11-22-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer.

I'll just get the PODxt model...

Haha, the auto answer to every thread.

Ryan Freeland · 11-22-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer.

I'll just get the PODxt model...

Mmm I don't think there is a Bogner model..

Oh no! What do we do!??

**Wesley7777** · 11-22-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspg70

Don't you have a Vox AC30 and a Mesa?? That is some serious gas.

Yeah i do, but this was a boogie killer. If i bought this it most likely would mean that i would sell my boogie.

**Rainer.** · 11-22-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Building429_Boy

Mmm I don't think there is a Bogner model..

Oh no! What do we do!??

You obviously haven't checked out the Metal Master expansion pack.

Ryan Freeland · 11-22-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer.

You obviously haven't checked out the Metal Master expansion pack.

Too bad you can`t get the expansion packs used on eBay or Craigslist.. haha.

Hellfighter · 11-27-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer.

I'll just get the PODxt model...

ummmm the POD will NEVER sound as good as the actual bogner...

now I am sure you can boo and hiss and say how wrong and silly I am, but what it comes down to is that the POD just does not have the warmth of a quality tube amp.

IF it did, why would tone gods like John Mayer and Eric Clapton still be using those 'outdated' tube amps instead of PODs?

**Wesley7777** · 11-27-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellfighter

ummmm the POD will NEVER sound as good as the actual bogner...

now I am sure you can boo and hiss and say how wrong and silly I am, but what it comes down to is that the POD just does not have the warmth of a quality tube amp.

IF it did, why would tone gods like John Mayer and Eric Clapton still be using those 'outdated' tube amps instead of PODs?

Yeah i agree with you

Ryan Freeland · 11-27-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellfighter

ummmm the POD will NEVER sound as good as the actual bogner...

now I am sure you can boo and hiss and say how wrong and silly I am, but what it comes down to is that the POD just does not have the warmth of a quality tube amp.

IF it did, why would tone gods like John Mayer and Eric Clapton still be using those 'outdated' tube amps instead of PODs?

He was.. sorta joking.

Casey · 11-27-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellfighter

ummmm the POD will NEVER sound as good as the actual bogner...

now I am sure you can boo and hiss and say how wrong and silly I am, but what it comes down to is that the POD just does not have the warmth of a quality tube amp.

IF it did, why would tone gods like John Mayer and Eric Clapton still be using those 'outdated' tube amps instead of PODs?

I'll attribute this post to naiveté because I like you, but if you did a search, you'll see that this topic has beaten to death, ad posts like your are somewhat regarded as flame-baiting.

Edit: I started writing the problems with your post, but I'll just advise you to do a search on the POD in the amp and effects forums.

**Rainer.** · 11-27-2006, 09:46 PM

Sorta joking is right...

But this topic has been beaten to death in other threads. Do a search.

**thesteve** · 11-27-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellfighter

ummmm the POD will NEVER sound as good as the actual bogner...

hmm...$300 vs. $2000...I think most of us are ok with compromise on that, especially since so much of sound quality isn't in the quality of your gear but your ability. I've never understood the fuss about Bogner because the one band I've seen live that used Bogner (a band called The Chemistry) was really generic (to the point of boredom) and so loud that they sounded better outside the building than inside it.

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now I am sure you can boo and hiss and say how wrong and silly I am, but what it comes down to is that the POD just does not have the warmth of a quality tube amp.

POD through quality tube amp...hmm

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IF it did, why would tone gods like John Mayer and Eric Clapton still be using those 'outdated' tube amps instead of PODs?

because they can afford to spend to get the precise tone they want. John Mayer is using with Two Rock Signature Custom Reverbs and he's used a 1960s Fender Vibro King, and a Dumble Overdrive Special as well as other amps. If that's something you can afford, or that's what you really need, then go for it. Ultimately there will be compromisers. There will be some of us that don't need to (or simply can't) spend three or four thousand dollars on an amp or a guitar to get the sound we want.

**Wesley7777** · 11-28-2006, 03:14 PM

yeah i think the thread has pretty much served nothing of the purpose for which i started it for and i got answer on a other board. So i am going to close it, feel free to spilt it or reopen it mods.