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Old 09-15-2006, 06:17 AM   #16
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generally IMO holding hands is more meaningful to the girl, but that doesn't mean it's meanignless to guys, just not as much.. it lets her know that you reall are interested in her.. and don't forget compliments, a must, but don't lay them on too heavy, because then she thinks your pathetic.. women are soo hard to please ... no matter what they tell you, they are very complicated.. just be yourself and i'm sure you'll do fine, i mean you got to the first date right? thats farther than some dudes get...
I'm afraid women think the same about us... And as Daren Streblow once said... "For girls handholding is like, 'I'm holding hands...I'm holding hands...this is nice holding hands.' and for guys, it's like holding a soft, warm, electric fence" lol jk

In any case, good luck tomorrow iceskating Ted!!!

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Old 09-15-2006, 09:01 AM   #17
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wow, i thought i was the only person in the world who knew who Daren Streblow was... wow... my advice for the dude is sit tight and have fun...
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:22 PM   #18
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It's not a dumb question to ask or thread to start, regardless of the mass opinion in the world to the contrary. It's possible to care TOO much about relationships, and delve into obsession. But I don't think you are doing that at all, you are just being cautious.

Also, I tend to think that you started this thread because you just needed to talk about this. That's also a perfectly legitimate feeling. I know when I was first developing my relationship with Laura, I wanted to talk to people about what I was feeling, experiencing, and learning. (Not that I ever did, and it caused a lot of problems later on.) So yes, I just think this was a good thread to start.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:08 AM   #19
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Yeah that's a good call Andrew... I just needed to talk to some more people that weren't all "What are you thinking for not holding her hand yet?"

And it has helped me feel less like an idiot, haha.

But tonight is iceskating, and I don't think it's going to be awkward at all... I'm really excited.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:56 PM   #20
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Oh man guys, ice skating was great. We held hands from the time we got on the ice (it was completely natural, no awkwardness at all...) until I left the party a little early (she came to the car with me and we embraced a while... haha I might have even pushed the envelope a little bit and kissed her on the cheek... but she's not the type of girl to freak out over something small like that). It was a great great great date, and I highly reccomend it. We were both bad at iceskating (I was much worse, haha...) but it was a lot of fun.

Thanks for all your input!
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:17 PM   #21
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Huzzah! By the way, recognizing the signals for physical things is one of the hardest parts about being new to dating or dating's physical aspects. There are two things I've found that help me around that difficulty: don't be afraid to ask if it's alright (she won't think you're weird, believe me), and don't be afraid to talk about with her.

Oh, and if you want a clear-cut sign that you should hold her hand, it's when she starts playing with your fingers. That's not the only sign, but that's usually a definitive sign.
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Old 09-20-2006, 07:15 PM   #22
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So guys.... this relationship was going amazingly. No fight, or negative feelings at all in 8 days. That's big for me... my last girlfirend I was having mental breakdowns 3 days into it... only God know what kept me in that one for 8 months.

So yeah, it was perfect. I really liked her, she really liked me. Then her dad found out she got a B in AP chem (her first B ever... like, in life...) and he told her "No TV, no phone, no boyfriend."

He even specified, no relationship, period. We can't have a secret relationship because:

A. Her sister goes to my school and would tell her dad...

B. She has a huge complex about not displeasing her father, and she'd die if he ever found out she was disobeying him...

So now I'm waiting for her. She's a wonderful girl, and worth waiting for. Hopefully her dad will come to. Grades reset in 2 weeks, so you never know.

But yeah, that's life for you. Even when you're doing everything right, and she's doing everything right, some outside source can mess it all up.

I sure hope this turns around...

Just thought I'd update you all.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:17 PM   #23
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Sounds like a tough situation. Good luck with waiting for her, but i hope everything works out for the best and you two end up together.
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