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Unread 01-25-2007, 08:47 PM   #16
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Unread 01-28-2007, 08:57 AM   #17
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Love it!! one of the best cd's ever!!!!!
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Unread 01-28-2007, 11:50 AM   #18
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10! I LOVE THIS CD!!!!
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Unread 01-28-2007, 01:30 PM   #19
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Love it!! one of the best cd's ever!!!!!
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10! I LOVE THIS CD!!!!
thats what i'm talking about
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Unread 01-29-2007, 12:39 PM   #20
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I voted 7, I enjoyed Beneath the Encasing of Ashes much more than their last 2 albums
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Unread 01-29-2007, 06:57 PM   #21
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Huge As I Lay Dying fan. I liked Frail Words Collapse a little better though, but I still get this one a 10!
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Unread 02-21-2007, 08:02 PM   #22
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Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?
Interesting. I listen to it because I found everything else became repetitive. And I'll agree that As I lay dying is indeed "more proficient". I prefer Underoath because (you're gonna hate me for this) I think Spencer is a better screamer and I like that he goes up an down in terms of pitch. I also think that double-bass is great and dandy, but I prefer Underoath's percussion as well. If you ask me, crazy fills > double-bass. I know, I know, the 2 or 3 fills that AILD's drummer does on the cd are great. And I wasn't trying to compare the two bands! Get off me! I was just saying that I like UO's style more. Forgive my lack of specifity. I like say, UO, The Chariot, As cities burn(before singer change), Norma Jean, etc., etc. Jeez! I like AILD a whole lot. More than some other metal bands that I will not mention for fear of more flaming. Which reminds me, have you guys heard of a band called Inhale Exhale? That's some good stuff. I really like them a lot lot lot.
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Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?
You know what's really ridiculous? Flaming a dude just for making an opinionated statement. Honestly, if you want everyone to agree with you, why not become a communist and take over the country! Heck, why stop their! Take over the world! Or you could take over Japan. They are more technically proficient.
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You know what's really ridiculous? Flaming a dude just for making an opinionated statement. Honestly, if you want everyone to agree with you, why not become a communist and take over the country! Heck, why stop their! Take over the world! Or you could take over Japan. They are more technically proficient.
Woah dude, calm down
1) He didn't blow up at all, there is not even an exclamation point in his reply
2) you just blew up

Its just opinions here everyone.
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Unread 02-21-2007, 08:29 PM   #25
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Woah dude, calm down
1) He didn't blow up at all, there is not even an exclamation point in his reply
2) you just blew up

Its just opinions here everyone.
I have a hard time tolerating people being critical. Sorry. I did not just blow up. I gave my opinion. I wasn't aware that exclamation point count was a sign of anger. I'll remember that.
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I have a hard time tolerating people being critical. Sorry. I did not just blow up. I gave my opinion. I wasn't aware that exclamation point count was a sign of anger. I'll remember that.
The exclamation point isn't always a sign of anger, I may have just read it wrong. I have a really quick temper also.
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"For hate is strong, and mocks the song
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Unread 02-23-2007, 09:18 PM   #27
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Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing it made everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more character to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I totally understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.

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Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing made it everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more character to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I totally understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.
I agree totally.
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Unread 02-23-2007, 09:28 PM   #29
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I agree totally.
I deeply appreciate it. I felt like a terrorist for a second when I first said that about UO vs. AILD.
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Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing it made everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more character to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I totally understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.
Will you quit comparing these two freaken cds already!
They aren't even in the same genre! Compare AILD with Shadows Fall or something, I mean come on.
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