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Unread 02-28-2007, 03:50 PM   #46
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no no....i hear ya... yeah, (on the contrary) Tim is the MOST technical guitar player i know...the riffs that he plays in this album are crazy, I mean....clever. James is more just backround guitar....Im not saying he sucks...lol, he awesome, just not as good as Tim and about the fact that he isn't hard core, well if you've seen he in the video that came with the cd youd know what i mean. He's just kinna weird....???

although i am a crazy underoath fan............i have never seen them in concert.... ....but i've got the money when ever they come around here!!!

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Unread 02-28-2007, 04:40 PM   #47
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no no....i hear ya... yeah, (on the contrary) Tim is the MOST technical guitar player i know...the riffs that he plays in this album are crazy, I mean....clever. James is more just backround guitar....Im not saying he sucks...lol, he awesome, just not as good as Tim and about the fact that he isn't hard core, well if you've seen he in the video that came with the cd youd know what i mean. He's just kinna weird....???

although i am a crazy underoath fan............i have never seen them in concert.... ....but i've got the money when ever they come around here!!!
Ok man, no offense, but you must know next to none guitarists then. Tim is by no means the most technical player, not being cocky, he just isn't. And i know you said that YOU know of, so i'm not attacking you.
I could give you a list of a LOT more technical guitar players or all sorts of music.

And what do you mean James is weird? They're all weird, all weird and funny. I have watched the dvd, i loved it, those guys are so awesome and funny. But judging by that video, the "weirdest" or, as i would like to say, 'funniest' is Tim.
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Unread 02-28-2007, 08:02 PM   #48
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Ok man, no offense, but you must know next to none guitarists then. Tim is by no means the most technical player, not being cocky, he just isn't. And i know you said that YOU know of, so i'm not attacking you.
I could give you a list of a LOT more technical guitar players or all sorts of music.

And what do you mean James is weird? They're all weird, all weird and funny. I have watched the dvd, i loved it, those guys are so awesome and funny. But judging by that video, the "weirdest" or, as i would like to say, 'funniest' is Tim.
You're right, earless. Can I call you earless? Is there a widely accepted abbreviation? Just wonderin'. Tim is good, but I've heard crazier, and yeah, he's totally nuts (which is completely cool with me).
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Unread 02-28-2007, 08:08 PM   #49
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Tim wasn't meant to be nuts. His guitar playing on Define the Great Line was supposed to be quick and heavy.

Has anyone noticed him using these chords over and over on the CD?

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Unread 02-28-2007, 08:21 PM   #50
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Tim wasn't meant to be nuts. His guitar playing on Define the Great Line was supposed to be quick and heavy.
Haha, no, no, no, man, I was talking about his behavior in general . His guitar was perfect, as far as I'm concerned. Not that I understand any of that stuff.....I'm a drummer. I know that's not neccessarily the best excuse, but I don't understand an ounce of it.
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Unread 02-28-2007, 08:24 PM   #51
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Tim wasn't meant to be nuts. His guitar playing on Define the Great Line was supposed to be quick and heavy.

Has anyone noticed him using these chords over and over on the CD?

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Yeah, I noticed those. Norma Jean has been using those for much longer. Tim is seriously though one of the craziest live guitarists I've ever seen.
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Unread 02-28-2007, 08:47 PM   #52
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Ok man, no offense, but you must know next to none guitarists then. Tim is by no means the most technical player, not being cocky, he just isn't. And i know you said that YOU know of, so i'm not attacking you.
I could give you a list of a LOT more technical guitar players or all sorts of music.

And what do you mean James is weird? They're all weird, all weird and funny. I have watched the dvd, i loved it, those guys are so awesome and funny. But judging by that video, the "weirdest" or, as i would like to say, 'funniest' is Tim.
oh no dawg, none taken.

I guess the closest guitar player that comes close is....Ben from skillet. he is also very good with solos. then i like abunch of others LIKE norma jean's guitars and Demon hunter's and OH!!.... Becoming the archetype....

but for me My FAV is Tim....just my personal opinion...lol

and when i say weird...uh well.....i quote, kinna, "when this album goes quad. platium, i'll have my own dressing private dressing room...decked out to a 'theme' which will be different everyday....one day will be 'toy birthday party day'...everyday ten people dressed up as clowns will come in and sing me happy b-day beofre i go out and play...."....!!!!???


I mean come on.... i know its just a joke but seriously it's kinna wierd....i'm all for being random and stupid but that just is....wierd???
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and when i say weird...uh well.....i quote, kinna, "when this album goes quad. platium, i'll have my own dressing private dressing room...decked out to a 'theme' which will be different everyday....one day will be 'toy birthday party day'...everyday ten people dressed up as clowns will come in and sing me happy b-day beofre i go out and play...."....!!!!???


I mean come on.... i know its just a joke but seriously it's kinna wierd....i'm all for being random and stupid but that just is....wierd???
That was hilarious. Beyond reason. I know it's obvious, but come on, they sing him happy B-day everyday...and it's only his b-day once a year. There's nothing better than going through the drive thru at some restaurant and responding to their usual, "Have a nice day", with "happy birthday!". Try it. I bet you absolutely nothing they'll laugh.

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Unread 02-28-2007, 10:36 PM   #54
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You're right, earless. Can I call you earless? Is there a widely accepted abbreviation? Just wonderin'. Tim is good, but I've heard crazier, and yeah, he's totally nuts (which is completely cool with me).
yeah man, earless is a common name for me on here, I actually prefer it.
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Yeah, I noticed those. Norma Jean has been using those for much longer. Tim is seriously though one of the craziest live guitarists I've ever seen.
he wasn't that crazy when i saw him, the guys from story of the year were really nuts . . .
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oh no dawg, none taken.

I guess the closest guitar player that comes close is....Ben from skillet. he is also very good with solos. then i like abunch of others LIKE norma jean's guitars and Demon hunter's and OH!!.... Becoming the archetype....

but for me My FAV is Tim....just my personal opinion...lol

and when i say weird...uh well.....i quote, kinna, "when this album goes quad. platium, i'll have my own dressing private dressing room...decked out to a 'theme' which will be different everyday....one day will be 'toy birthday party day'...everyday ten people dressed up as clowns will come in and sing me happy b-day beofre i go out and play...."....!!!!???


I mean come on.... i know its just a joke but seriously it's kinna wierd....i'm all for being random and stupid but that just is....wierd???
He was just joking around man, he was totally making it up as he went along. If you think that is weird, you would be pretty shocked if you ever met me.

and i don't really get how you said Tim was the most technical guitarist you know of, and yet you know of the guys from Becoming The Archetype, those guys, at the moment, are by far some of the most technical guitarist in the Christian music industry. They, in technicality terms, wipe Tim out completely.
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That was hilarious. Beyond reason. I know it's obvious, but come on, they sing him happy B-day everyday...and it's only his b-day once a year. There's nothing better than going through the drive thru at some restaurant and responding to their usual, "Have a nice day", with "happy birthday!". Try it. I bet you absolutely nothing they'll laugh.

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James is cool.
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Unread 03-01-2007, 12:55 AM   #55
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lol....i guess your right, i just like him ok?....lol....yeah i also agree with you about becoming the archetype too... they have awesome riffs....

anyways, the showdown has some pretty good guitarists too.

The thing i love about Tim's style on this cd is when he does like the
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and yeah....we all have different styles and heroes...Tim is mine,

Frik! I want to see them SO bad!


Oh and don't get me wrong!....It's not like i dont have a sence of humor....lol
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Tim is my favorite too man, even though there are more "technical" guitarists out there, he is just really cool.
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Unread 03-07-2007, 06:32 PM   #57
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A 7 for me. This album got way too much hype for the overall quality. It's pretty unstructured/random, and these chords:
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followed by heavy strums of the lower strings seem to fill every song. I know it was actually worse, but I liked They're Only Chasing Safety more (though not by much). Still has a couple of good songs though
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A 7 for me. This album got way too much hype for the overall quality. It's pretty unstructured/random, and these chords:

followed by heavy strums of the lower strings seem to fill every song. I know it was actually worse, but I liked They're Only Chasing Safety more (though not by much). Still has a couple of good songs though
It's your opinion and everything, but the fact that it was less structured and more random and crazy was what wet it apart from the generic screamo that "Chasing Safety" was.
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So where does the music begin on this CD? Mine must have gliched, because all I have is 11 filler tracks of noise
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