Low Growls

**akaukal** · 08-21-2006, 06:37 PM

Up till now I've been doing high pitched screams. But lately, I've been trying to do low growls. The problem is, everytime I just lower the pitch of my normal screams, my voice cracks and it sounds terrible. Are there any techniques to help me get better sounding growls? And I don't want anyone telling me not to scream. It's annoying and useless.

bass4christ27 · 08-21-2006, 06:56 PM

I'm not a pro, but I think you could just have a high voice. I can do some low screaming but I cant hit many high notes at all. what type of low screaming were you talking about, name a few bands

Nate · 08-21-2006, 07:22 PM

Smoke.

**akaukal** · 08-22-2006, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass4christ27

I'm not a pro, but I think you could just have a high voice. I can do some low screaming but I cant hit many high notes at all. what type of low screaming were you talking about, name a few bands

I got interested in low screaming when I heard Underoath's new album. Spencer can do really high screams, but he still manages to do pretty good low growls.

bass4christ27 · 08-22-2006, 11:40 AM

Exactly the same with me acsept I can do most of the low growling, but I can barely hit any of his high notes. "In thier only chasing safety" I can't scream any of his songs. It's more of a bellow you just open up your throat and push air through. Since you have some experience with screaming it shouldn't be hard. Honestly it hurt less the the high screams, but thats probably because I have a lower voice. Please keep us posted on your progress, and if it's not to much trouble you can try and record yourself doing both the high and low sreaming. Thanks

**akaukal** · 08-22-2006, 03:05 PM

So more of a yell? I'll try it out.

ieatdirt · 08-22-2006, 03:18 PM

I don't think what you're thinking of is really a lower scream. Are you thinking of something like Living Sacrifice-type growling?

**jjvacc** · 08-22-2006, 03:37 PM

I tried it after being inspired by Becoming The Archetypes low screaming. It worked as long as I tried not to go too low. I couldn't get as low as them, but as low as I could and in the end it sounded decent.

-chester

**akaukal** · 08-22-2006, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ieatdirt

I don't think what you're thinking of is really a lower scream. Are you thinking of something like Living Sacrifice-type growling?

The low screaming Spencer does off Define the Great Line.

I tried forcing more air out and giving more of a yell. It seemed to work but it sounded really out of control. I'll have to work on it.

bass4christ27 · 08-22-2006, 04:16 PM

My throat is basicly in the same position as when I yawn.....basicly. You need to work with it.
It is kind of like a yell but if you need to put more tone to it, I'm still working on the tone of my screams, I cant get it the scratchy sound spencer gets.

ieatdirt · 08-22-2006, 05:14 PM

Yeah, it's a good way to describe what your mouth does. Almost like yawning.

**akaukal** · 09-02-2006, 01:47 PM

Wow, I don't know how I did it, but I was practicing the other day and I tried screaming lower and it worked perfectly. It still sounds really out of control, but at least I resolved my pitch problem. I'm really not sure how I do it, but it works everytime now.

Bizrate · 09-24-2006, 01:25 AM

Wrong Wrong Wrong.

Intro/Background
Though shouldn't advertise my band on a primarily religious based site, I'll hope there's not a primary load of Fanatics that will ride and assault me with their preaching and attempt to influence.

I am a bass and back-up guitar player, though more importantly for this thread i'm a vocalist for the band Caduceus. (singers = using wide array of tones and pitchs usually with a high range, vocalists = being people with less range flexabilities such as growl/gurg/chants etc etc namely any sound effects)

We are a death metal progressive band primarily and have been playing for quite a while and are actually discussing wether or not we're going to be signing one of a few labels (legalities prevent from mentioning) that are interested. Common band issues that may cause us to slow down our music or break up for a while (women heh) and wouldn't be able to break up once signed.

Growling The Easy Way
But, WRONG do NOT growl with your throat. There are ways to use your throat if you wish practice for about 2hrs worth a day with only 2-3minute spurts of practice, and you really should take a long break in between, make sure you take a drink ROOM TEMP WATER IS BEST after every 5-10 seconds worth of consistant growl (the key to using your throat, because it is the easiest way, is to rise and lower the growl along your entire vocal range to basically thoughen up your throat)

While performing use Olive Oil to coat your throat, it forms a nice layer. Keeping a 1oz glass with olive oil near the mic is a good idea.

**Note: Throat growling will cause loss of voice if you do not space it properly. (Though throat should be little sore durring practice or you wont get as good results in the end). Consistent Throat growls can cause major havok on your chords after a while (though it is quite a while).

NOW THE IMPORTANT PART:
Use your diaphram to growl you will last a lot longer with less damage. Raise the tip of your tounge to the roof of your mouth and relax your bottom jaw. Durring exhales use large amounts of air though do not suck in your gut despite the natural tendancy to do so. The movement of your tounge will change the type of growl and frequency (try making a circle with the tip of your tounge and put it to the roof of your mouth, creates a nice sound... for those that can't roll your tounge, because some people are genetically unable to, there's plenty over things you can do with your tounge just try it out)

Another little tip you can work on is durring the exhale push down like you are doing to the bathroom (for lack of better terminology), though this also needs practice to toughen it up for without the area WILL become swollen.

If there's any other questions or music based inquirys you can E-mail me at Campbte@hotmail.com

Though once again, please do NOT e-mail any religious based information or links.

**akaukal** · 09-24-2006, 10:30 AM

Wow, thanks. I'll try all of that.

bass4christ27 · 09-25-2006, 08:45 PM

Thank you Bizrate, I completely agree with you about pushing with your breathing not your throat, I forgot to mension that earlier. You are also correct about not tightening your throat, you have to relax it or you'll suffer from pain and eventually, voice dammage. No matter which way you do it if you scream too long without water or resting you'll hurt yourself. I still try not to hurt myself sceaming, I don't think I'm the only one that says if it hurts you've gone to far.