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Old 08-17-2006, 06:06 PM   #31
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As a small effort of dubunking the whole "Macs never crash. PC's crash constantly" myth, there is my personal experience with Windows XP.

Two desktop systems, custum built by me. Combined 8 years, 0 combined crashes.

One Dell laptop. 3 1/2 years. 0 crashes.

One Toshiba laptop. 1/2 year, 0 crashes.

Plus, the system I built for my brother's family, which is now at 1 1/2 years without a crash.
Honestly, as long as you aren't using a spyware/adware/virus-infested copy of XP, there aren't too many problems with PCs.

A properly maintained PC can be just as secure as a Mac. I haven't gotten a virus in years. I haven't gotten a noticable spyware infestation in at least a year or two. I might pick up a few things in a Adaware scan every now and then, but that's all. Just using Firefox and common sense helped the most.

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Old 08-17-2006, 07:25 PM   #32
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I havent seen anyone mention this one very important fact:

MACS DONT GET VIRUSES!

Or Spyware, adware, or any-other-ware's for that matter.

And as for crashing: more RAM will solve that problem for any computer (unless its a virus...but macs dont get those).
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:27 PM   #33
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And one more thing...

Mac's are hot. Like...they are the Fossil or Rolex of computers. Or...oakleys...whatever you want. I think my mac is good looking...haha.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:43 PM   #34
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What kind of Mac/ version of OS are you using?
Was I using?

OS X.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:45 PM   #35
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I havent seen anyone mention this one very important fact:

MACS DONT GET VIRUSES!

Or Spyware, adware, or any-other-ware's for that matter.

And as for crashing: more RAM will solve that problem for any computer (unless its a virus...but macs dont get those).
Right, because Macs are perfect in every aspect. Just because it's never happened to you doesn't mean it never happens period. As Patrick said, a properly maintained PC can be just as secure as a Mac.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:41 PM   #36
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It's susceptable, mainly, because it exists in innumberable quantity. It's hard to 'be susceptable' to something that doesn't exist yet.
So then, society is not suceptable to a human-transferrable bird flu because none currently exists... nor is the tree in my front yard succeptable to a hurricane because there are none right this moment.

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You can sell anything (see Linspire's Oooff! ). That's not my point. You can certainly pay for certain distros of Linux if you like, but that doesn't discount that there are still tons of other distros that are absolutely free (and still the best, IMHO).
Well, the makers describe it differently. According to them FEDORA has the following differences from Redhat:

Fedora is not "Stable, reliable, and broadly supported."
Fedora has no ISV or hardware certifications.
Fedora runs on fewer architectures

Plus a somewhat different view of updates. But hey, why believe them: They only write the software.

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SUSE desktop: $50 per year (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/howtobuy.html)

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A properly maintained PC can be just as secure as a Mac. I haven't gotten a virus in years. I haven't gotten a noticable spyware infestation in at least a year or two. I might pick up a few things in a Adaware scan every now and then, but that's all. Just using Firefox and common sense helped the most.
I higly recommend AVAST as an anti-virus. It catches most attempts at spyware intrusion IME. I also find spybot better than adaware personally; but that's pretty anticdotal.

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MACS DONT GET VIRUSES!
Here's links to a bunch: http://antivirus.about.com/gi/dynami...xt%3Dmacintosh

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Old 08-17-2006, 08:58 PM   #37
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There is also a free version. Which I am completely satisfied with.
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JerryLove...I didnt see any viruses on that page...just bugs in programs and articles about programs.
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JerryLove...I didnt see any viruses on that page...just bugs in programs and articles about programs.
SoapBar II...I've got news for you. The Mac running OS X I had crashed twice. It also got adware once. Macs aren't as virus-proof as you keep saying.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:30 PM   #40
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In response to the original poster, I'd recommend finding out if there's a Mac store near you. Or if you know someone who has a newer Mac, see if you can try it out. Find out for yourself whether you even like it or not rather than depending on the internet facts, or articles, or opinions. There's too much bias one way or the other, myself included. See for yourself what you prefer.

In any case, I believe I'll step out now before this goes further along the path of the usual Mac/PC back and forth pointlessness, and before I contribute to that anymore myself.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:41 PM   #41
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I've had the mac I'm on right now for a little over five years, it's crashed twice. First time I'm not really sure why, but it may have had something to do with a random game I installed (but we didn't lose any information on the computer), and the second was back in like January, because I had about 100 megabytes left and I forced it to burn a CD. But right now it's working (although the battery lasts around half an hour) and it's decent speed wise, not much against my new iBook, but not too bad.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:39 PM   #42
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Actually...any USB 2 button mouse...even a 5 dollar jobber will work...as long as the app supports right clicking
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:55 PM   #43
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I think it would be safe to say that with a fresh install of each OS (IOW, each with the default security and security apps and no third party software), that one would be much more likely to get viruses, adware, spyware, etc. on XP than OS X.

But if you were to use additional anti-virus and anti-malware software, even the free available software, and just use common sense when browsing the web and downloading files, it's very likely you would never encounter viruses, serious adware, etc.

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Actually...any USB 2 button mouse...even a 5 dollar jobber will work...as long as the app supports right clicking
And just about every app does, and the OS has supported it for a while now. Even with a single button mouse, all you need to do is hold CTRL while clicking.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:13 PM   #44
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Yeah...I get to mess with all sorts of macs...

At my desk, I have a:
PowerBook Titanium G4 400Mhz (...yes, a G4...not a G3)[OS 9.2.2]
iBook G3 500Mhz [OS 9.2.2]
1Ghz eMac OS 10.3.9
1.44 Ghz iBook G4 OS 10.4.7

Im a PC man trapped in a Mac Mans paradise!
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In regards to what 2+2=5 said, I have to one up on the iBook. It has to be the most solid laptop I've used.
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