Peavey Classic Vs. Crate V16 Palomino

eyema_believer · 08-17-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Tom

Great tone !! Love it ! The little time I spent with a V1512 at a music store a couple/few years back sounded more along the lines of your recording than the Nu-metal that was mentioned, at least in my memory's ear. What was the signal chain? Any compression or processing in the recording process?

Sorry for not responding earlier Tom....for some reason I'm not getting my email notifications any more. This recording was made using a RP200a for some compression and clean boost into the clean channel of the amp, then adding delay afterwards....I've since started running a Vox Tonelab SE into the amp and I'm in love for sho! Also, I built a isolation cab out of 3/4" birch with a 12" Celestion so I can crank it up. It's about as loud as a TV set now, and no bass leakage at all!! ...~Shawn

Major Tom · 08-17-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eyema_believer

Sorry for not responding earlier Tom....for some reason I'm not getting my email notifications any more. This recording was made using a RP200a for some compression and clean boost into the clean channel of the amp, then adding delay afterwards....I've since started running a Vox Tonelab SE into the amp and I'm in love for sho! Also, I built a isolation cab out of 3/4" birch with a 12" Celestion so I can crank it up. It's about as loud as a TV set now, and no bass leakage at all!! ...~Shawn

Well, IMO, you just disproved two myths; 1) Crate amps suck 2) Digitech multi-FX suck

I have come close to building an iso cab a couple times, never got off my rear... One thing I did for the super low volume required at church as a last ditch effort (

) to get quiet enough - I put an 8" and a 6" speaker into one of my Bravos. (no special reason for the 6", just something I had laying around that sounded decent and fit nicely with the 8" in that amp). Those speakers put out so much less volume than a 12", even a low-efficiency 12. A single 8" sounds great mic'd thru the mains, but thin on stage to my ears. The 6" woofer adds a lot of bottom to where it sounds more natural, without adding much overall SPL. I have an LPad attenuator on each speaker so I can control the mix ratio of the 2. Bottom line, its a couple notches less volume than a 12" attenuated down as low as I can stand it, the speakers are getting enough juice to sound decent, it sounds good to me on stage, and since its less SPL, there's more of it thru the mains, and it sounds great out front.

RipVanWinkle · 08-17-2006, 02:00 PM

+1 for digitech stuff.

Everybody scoffs at the RP-100 on my pedal board...I think it sounds wonderful

eyema_believer · 08-17-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Tom

Well, IMO, you just disproved two myths; 1) Crate amps suck 2) Digitech multi-FX suck

I agree. I love my Crate. I really liked my digitech gnx2 I had, but I lost that...someone else is enjoying it I hope. The RP200 I bought simply was in bad shape. One of the foot switches used to change patches hardly works, and I was using it at an outdoor gig where the AC was a bit noisy, and the thing started changing patches all by itself! I had to sort of retire it....
But yes...crate tube amps are awesome. The V16 is not channel switching which is a bit problematic. Although the V32 isn't really a 2 channel amp, it does have a "simulated" clean channel that takes 1/2 of a preamp tube out of the path and sounds super duper fantastic....

Rhythm_guy · 08-19-2006, 06:17 PM

Another Classic 30 user here. Mine draws rave reviews from everybody who has used it at our church. We get pretty loud sometimes, either in church or playing out at other venues, so not being able to drive it is not a big problem. I need to point out, though that mine is not stock - it has Mesa tubes.