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Unread 08-05-2006, 08:39 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by CheshireCat View Post
That's really the key factor here: what would the cost of replacing my Utah, or the opportunity costs lost if something were to happen to it?
Indeed, however that was the aspect that I chose NOT to take when looking at the equation, because it's the route that is always taken.
The whole point I'm making now is that, on a go-forward basis, if one was to create this guitar from scratch, and not have the issues of time standing in the way to innovate all this, but it would proceed as a regular custom job (albeit a big one), then you'd be looking at a six month build, and it would easily ring in at something $20K.
I agree, AND I already conceded this point earlier when I said the following: "I'm not saying that your guitar doesn't have at least $20K of luthier-time put into it by you or that a reporduction wouldn't cost that much"
Incidentally, you mentioned that if a company was to spend the 8 years building this that I did, that it would be cost effective and so on, and not representative of a $20K where the cash had to be fronted all at once. Well, perhaps, but I would think that the opposite would be true. Stringing the process along where the company would have resources invested in this process for the better part of eight years, they would definitely charge me top dollar for a retainer, and usually design costs run for $200 an hour at least.

For instance, just imagine how involved it would be to program the CNC machine to create all the bevels. I did that with a $10 attachment on an old Sears table saw, not to mention a lot of math and skullduggery going into it. That wouldn't be the preferred method for whatever company I got to make my very own "Mainocaster", just like Crazy Cat's.
It all makes sense, but I think you're misunderstanding my angle. I'm not looking at this from a custom job standpoint at all, but from a purely corporate standpoint of 8 (or 16) years time. Think of it like this...suppose you were some version of Leo Fender, or Paul Reed Smith or (because his name came up) Tom Anderson or Ron Wickersham (because we keep going back to Alembic) and you had this vision of a guitar that was exactly like the Utah (or some other not quite Western but also not really Midwestern state) in every fashion, but you decided that you would not dedicate your entire company's time to the project to get it completed in 6 months. Instead you would allow the project to evolve and as things came into your head you'd say, "hey that seems like a good idea...I'll do that."

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Unread 08-05-2006, 11:31 AM   #17
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I would get an Alembic because my friend has a 5k bass from them(think thats the people who made it) and its flipping sweet. I really didn't make my statement about $3-$6 on a gibson to be taking that it would be the ultimate guitar but I was meaning it as its going to cost biig $$$$ to get a nice gibson.
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Unread 08-05-2006, 11:49 AM   #18
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^ I got my nice Gibson for $400. Gofigure.

Originally Posted by Visirale View Post
Chesh, how are alembics looked at in the guitar world? I know they are kind of a holy grail in the bass world, but I jus think they are kind of "eh"...
I think most of the shapes are pretty "eh", too. But I wouldn't mind a Spectrum...
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