02-19-2002, 05:38 PM
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#106 | | Hansel, so hot right now
Joined: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,519
| i'm just curious as to what exactly is meant by "theologicaly sound". Do you mean directly from scripture. That what their words say are correct in relation to the bible?
i'm not sure what you meant but i am going to say that some of the best writing comes from the supertones. Their words are great and i'm pretty sure that i agree with every song. as was stated earlier:
"Come on... SUPERTONES! No one can beat 'em!"
however i completely agree with those who has thrown out rich mullins and Caedmon's Call.
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02-19-2002, 09:52 PM
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#107 | | Emperor of Ice Cream
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 147
| In Defence of Delerious? I beg to differ on the point of Delerious?. They write and perform some of the best, truest, and deepest Christian music that has ever been. Just a short list of their best work:
Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble?
Investigate
My Glorious
Message of the Cross
Shout to the North
Jesus' Blood
Awaken the Dawn
White Ribbon Day
Deeper
I could Sing of Your Love Forever
Not Forgotten
Lord You Have My Heart
Find Me in the River
and on and on.
And just because they prayed for the manifestation of healing for someone and it didn't happen right then doesn't mean they did it outside of God's will. The Bible says "By His stripes we are healed." Not will be healed or might be healed. It's present tense: it all ready happened in the spiritual even if we can't see it in the physical. I think it's great that they're willing to take the time to pray for somebody's healing. They don't have to, most big bands don't. Delerious? has given us some of the best worship songs in the macroverse!
And on a side note, how about the Newsboys song "Truth Be Known (Everybody Gets a Shot)?
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02-20-2002, 08:18 AM
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#108 | | Member
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| Do you really think "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever" is a good tune. I mean by the time the song is over it truly feels like they are going to sing of His love forever.
Lyrics, who needs lyrics, when there are songs like these. |
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02-20-2002, 11:00 AM
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#109 | | Hansel, so hot right now
Joined: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,519
| are you saying it goes on too long?
:kconf:
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02-20-2002, 05:06 PM
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#110 | | Doot doot!!
Joined: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,714
| Yeah, I agree that Delirious stuff is deep. IT has an amazing ability to lead me into the presence of God. Particularly Investigate and Jesus Blood.
*stands up in the corner of the room and starts singing*
....cough...ahem!...sorry about that!
Question: Why do people always say that John cooper (skillet) is dodgy. His songs are awesome, what in particular about him is so evil! *rolls eyes*
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02-20-2002, 05:18 PM
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#111 | | Registered User
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: TX/New Mexico Posts: 645
| Quote: |
Do you really think "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever" is a good tune. I mean by the time the song is over it truly feels like they are going to sing of His love forever.
| You act like it should be a "normal" song or it should be a concert of some sort. In worship...songs go as long as the spirit leads. Just because you can't get into worship doesn't mean other people aren't. :kduh: |
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02-21-2002, 12:12 AM
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#112 | | Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by Enobmurt
You act like it should be a "normal" song or it should be a concert of some sort. In worship...songs go as long as the spirit leads. Just because you can't get into worship doesn't mean other people aren't. :kduh: | So you think you've got the market cornered on worship?
Yes it is a song, and yes, it's on a CD, so yes, it should have some symblance of a song.
And yes, they did it like a normal song, til they repeated the phrase "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever" 50 gazillion times. As a musician, I find no musicianship in that. Third Day has some pretty good praise songs, and they do a good job of change-ups even though the songs are really simple praise choruses.
Getting back to the purpose of this thread - - - Once again, Bob Hartman of Petra writes the most theologically sound songs. But most people wouldn't know that as they are unfortunately past their glory years. |
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02-21-2002, 06:03 AM
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#113 | | Auntie Becky
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,787
| If someone can say Rich Mullanse (who is nether a band or with us today) Then I can say Keith Green!!! He out does them all!!!! (He is also not a band or with us today  ) I could also mention Don Francisco.
Other then that I am tempted to say Relient K. :klol:
Some of their songs ARE deep.
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02-21-2002, 06:05 AM
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#114 | | Fabulous!
Joined: Oct 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 15,838
| Quote: Originally posted by dakota
So you think you've got the market cornered on worship?
Yes it is a song, and yes, it's on a CD, so yes, it should have some symblance of a song.
And yes, they did it like a normal song, til they repeated the phrase "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever" 50 gazillion times. As a musician, I find no musicianship in that. Third Day has some pretty good praise songs, and they do a good job of change-ups even though the songs are really simple praise choruses.
Getting back to the purpose of this thread - - - Once again, Bob Hartman of Petra writes the most theologically sound songs. But most people wouldn't know that as they are unfortunately past their glory years. | Ah petra, how depraved todays kids are to not have lived during their time. |
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02-21-2002, 10:51 AM
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#115 | | Registered User
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: TX/New Mexico Posts: 645
| "So you think you've got the market cornered on worship?
Yes it is a song, and yes, it's on a CD, so yes, it should have some symblance of a song.
And yes, they did it like a normal song, til they repeated the phrase "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever" 50 gazillion times. As a musician, I find no musicianship in that. Third Day has some pretty good praise songs, and they do a good job of change-ups even though the songs are really simple praise choruses."
I never said anything about having the market cornered and yes I know it's a song. I'm saying though that it's worship and the majority of worship does repeat itself. It's not supposed to be that musical. It's supposed to be easy for people to sing along with and get caught up in.
This is not classical we're talking about that makes a person think and hear in awe at the complexity of it |
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02-21-2002, 12:11 PM
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#116 | | Member
Joined: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 146
| Quote: Originally posted by Enobmurt
Just because you can't get into worship doesn't mean other people aren't. :kduh: | Yes, you implied I don't know worship.
You imply that songs with verses aren't worship, because they aren't simple.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me, I once was lost, but now am found, was blind, but now I see.
I could give you a few more verses of it if you'd like.
Worship? Life (24/7/365) is worship. The way you carry yourself, the way you give thanks and praise to the Lord in all you do, including your actions, speech and conduct in all your relationships. It's not a simple song that we can put in our hearts. These choruses are a ministry to each of us, that can help us remain focused on the Trinity, but the term "Worship" misclassifies all other Christian music that also speaks and ministers to people and keeps them focused on God. |
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02-21-2002, 02:34 PM
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#117 | | Registered User
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: TX/New Mexico Posts: 645
| "Yes, you implied I don't know worship.
You imply that songs with verses aren't worship, because they aren't simple."
I didn't mean to imply that and I didn't disagree with you that Third Day has some good worship. It's just that those are becoming fewer and fewer in worship songs. Hymnals are being used fewer and fewer times. Quote: |
Worship? Life (24/7/365) is worship. The way you carry yourself, the way you give thanks and praise to the Lord in all you do, including your actions, speech and conduct in all your relationships. It's not a simple song that we can put in our hearts. These choruses are a ministry to each of us, that can help us remain focused on the Trinity, but the term "Worship" misclassifies all other Christian music that also speaks and ministers to people and keeps them focused on God.
| Yes, I know what worship is. I rather enjoy Romans 12: 1 (NIV). But this thread is about songs. Theologically correct artists/songs which include worship songs. |
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02-21-2002, 02:43 PM
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#118 | | Non-Naturalist
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 822
| I've opened up for Chris Rice before.. He's a little pessimistic in person. Some people just ooooze "I'm saved." Chris, on the other hand, is sorta.. "well, if there IS a God.. then.. I should be... " etc. Almost like Eli.
I've also opened up for Cross Movement. Those guys are really solid, so are their lyrics.
I've spent time with DC Talk. I don't think you really need any insight into that one.
I've also spent time with Five Iron Frenzy and am convinced that don't know God.
As for Third Day... I played against them one year (before their first albumn came out). I rebuked Mac for singing a Lenny Kravitz song in his set. He was really cool about it and actually thanked me.. Needless to say, they won.. we lost. The winner got "free studio time" to work on a project. Next thing I know, they're playing on Christian Radio.
Martin Smith is a good writer... but he's changed alot since his debut. (Luke: Just because I pray for my dad's leg and it isn't healed doesn't mean that it's wrong to pray for healing again? Neither does it mean that I missed God by moving with compassion to pray for healing. Delerious is no different... There was nothing wrong with Christ praying, "take this cup from me"... "NEVERTHELESS... not MY will..." Obviously God chose the "nevertheless" and ignored the "take this cup." Christ wasn't wrong in praying that though..
IMO, Matt Redman has the most theologically sound lyrics... Charlie Hall is good... Anthony Skinner is awesome too.
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02-21-2002, 06:02 PM
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#119 | | Laborer/Philosopher
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 17,127
| Matt Redman and that "Dancing Lord" song... |
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02-21-2002, 07:02 PM
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#120 | | Emperor of Ice Cream
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 147
| Matt Redman is awesome, too.
You know who I haven't seen up here? Michael W. Smith. Opinions, anyone?
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