12-13-2001, 01:18 PM
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#61 | | Laborer/Philosopher
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 17,037
| Quote: Originally posted by SnapCase
Here is the most theologically sound song written by my roommate.
Its kind of an inside joke...we're mocking one of our professors
Enjoy!!
| Awesome song, Dj! It's so funny!! |
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12-13-2001, 02:16 PM
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#62 | | Acolyte
Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Posts: 123
| hmm... Andrew from Project 86, definately...
I don't see why your opinion of them would drop because they tried to heal someone's sight? Do we have no faith in God anymore? I'm sure they weren't just doing it for themselves.
Also, I'm sure that band's song wasn't on the book on the prayer of jabez, but was on the actual prayer of jabez... Which is still an awesome prayer. I don't see anything wrong with asking God to enlarge your territory, especially if territory represents people to witness to.
I agree that the actual craze around the book is a bit out of hand, but it's not that bad... We shouldn't be looking down on other christians that way.
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12-13-2001, 02:21 PM
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#63 | | Finally A College Grad!
Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 5,194
| Quote: Originally posted by mustbenothing Awesome song, Dj! It's so funny!! | It's even funnier if you knew the professor |
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12-13-2001, 02:22 PM
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#64 | | so much
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,067
| Re: hmm... Quote: Originally posted by Electricgrandpa I don't see anything wrong with asking God to enlarge your territory, especially if territory represents people to witness to. | But is that what "territory" means??? Nope!! Jabez simply prayed that God would increase his territory... meaning, his land. (Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with asking God to give you more people to witness to.... just that Jabez didn't pray for that.)
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12-13-2001, 02:49 PM
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#65 | | Still true to this day...
Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 24,658
| Re: hmm... - Electricgrandpa said:
- I don't see why your opinion of them would drop because they tried to heal someone's sight? Do we have no faith in God anymore? I'm sure they weren't just doing it for themselves.
- Luke says:
- I might have been okay with it had it been successful. However, as it wasn't, it obviously wasn't of God.
- Electricgrandpa said:
- Also, I'm sure that band's song wasn't on the book on the prayer of jabez, but was on the actual prayer of jabez... Which is still an awesome prayer. I don't see anything wrong with asking God to enlarge your territory, especially if territory represents people to witness to.
- Luke says:
- Now let's be reasonable. They just so happened to write the song shortly after the release of the book and just so happened to follow the book's model (as opposed to what a casual reader would ascertain from just reading 1 Chronicles 4:9-10). The song was inspired by the book, not the prayer.
And territory in the actual prayer was land. Period. It wasn't a prayer for more ministry of anything like that. It is improper exegesis to say otherwise. Of course, it's also improper exegesis to say that Jabez was more honorable because of his prayer (the Bible puts these in reverse order), but Dr. Wilkinson does anyway. Dr. Wilkinson must like Tim LaHaye...they both like to take past events and force them into the future. - Electricgrandpa said:
- I agree that the actual craze around the book is a bit out of hand, but it's not that bad... We shouldn't be looking down on other christians that way.
- Luke says:
- I'm not "looking down on them". I'm saying that those things are not theologically sound, and you cannot be a theologically sound band if you do theologically unsound things. This is common sense.
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12-13-2001, 05:27 PM
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#66 | | Acolyte
Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Posts: 123
| well... Just because the healing wasn't successful doesn't mean that it wasn't from God!
If he wasn't healed, then God didn't intend for him to be healed... That doesn't mean that what they did was wrong... What you are saying is that if he was healed, then it would have been ok for them to do? They did it with good intentions...
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12-13-2001, 05:30 PM
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#67 | | Acolyte
Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Posts: 123
| Exactly... Even if Jabez meant just more land, if people interpret this verse as increasing the number of people to witness to, then it is all just the same. It is in God's will for people to interpret this verse in that way, and therefore, it is the purpose of the verse. Regardless of what it meant to Jabez, it may mean something different to us, but it still applies.
-EG |
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12-13-2001, 05:38 PM
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#68 | | Finally A College Grad!
Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 5,194
| Quote: |
Regardless of what it meant to Jabez, it may mean something different to us, but it still applies.
| To be quite honest..thats kind of dangerous. That is where scripture twisting comes in and we get these weird cults. You have to remember the original context then make application. Land and evangelism are totally different things, I'm not sure you can get that type of application from that verse. |
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12-13-2001, 06:06 PM
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#69 | | Whats invading your soul?
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: Cedarville, OH Posts: 125
| In no particular order, my votes go to:
Stifle the Folley (indie band from OH)
Chris Rice
Michael Card
Shaun Groves
Caedmon's Call
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Matt. 5:13-16
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12-13-2001, 06:28 PM
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#70 | | has serious thrill issues
Joined: Dec 2001 Location: the EAC, Dude! Posts: 1,461
| SKA IS NOT DEAD!
I don't think anyone will ever be able to agree on this...
here's my choices:
Newsboys
Caedmon's Call
Five Iron Frenzy
dc Talk
Third Day
and I agree w/ the whole relient K writes awesome worship songs!
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12-13-2001, 06:46 PM
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#71 | | Registered User
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 664
| Rich Mullens' music is great, and I'm sure it's an inspiration for many of the Christian artists we listen to. I also think that Switchfoot's music is wonderful, both musically and lyrically, especially on the newest album, Learning to Breathe. |
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12-13-2001, 07:47 PM
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#72 | | Still true to this day...
Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 24,658
| Remember, we're not talking about just who's cool, but who is theologically sound and deep. I'm trying to figure out how Newsboys has been mentioned twice since to say their lyrics are shallow is a gross understatement.
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12-13-2001, 08:00 PM
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#73 | | Registered User
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 8
| Mark Schultz & Steven Curtis Chapman
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12-13-2001, 08:10 PM
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#74 | | has serious thrill issues
Joined: Dec 2001 Location: the EAC, Dude! Posts: 1,461
| luke, how so?
__________________ Rangers Lead the Way "I would rather have the respect of one Ranger, than the sympathy of an entire nation."- Ranger Chris StoneSifer I do think it is great how CCM artists have been crossing over lately, like Stacy Orrico to MTV and now Jaci (Velasquez) to porn. Great news.- Benj According to Underhill:
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12-13-2001, 08:11 PM
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#75 | | Still true to this day...
Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 24,658
| None of their lyrics are deep. Can you think of any that are?
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