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Old 06-27-2006, 07:11 PM   #1
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Seriously??

So I was just wondering what some Episcopalians think. I know there's a thread on the new female bishop. And I think there's a mention about her sermon titled "Our Mother Jesus."
But I want to know what you guys really think about the current resolutions passed that now describe the Trinity by saying mother, child, womb (or something like that) and the endorsing of homosexuality. David Virtue has even said that the ECUSA is now in heresy. What do you guys think about what's been going on lately? I also heard that they decided to table the issue of Jesus being the only way to heaven. Why should that even be discussed??
So I'm not accusing any of you people here on the boards of anything, just wanting to know what you guys think of these resolutions and latest news about what the ECUSA is doing.
Again, not trying to offend people, just want some thoughts from people "on the inside" so to speak.

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Hi Domnastics,

I'm not a member of ECUSA - I'm a (former) member of the ACC (Anglican Church of Canada). My church formally declared themselves in "serious theological dispute" with our diocesan bishop, Michael Ingham, over the issue of the blessing of same-sex marriage. I'll spare you the discourse on the politics (it's still a little foggy in my mind), but suffice it to say my church is a member of the Anglican Communion by way of the Anglican Network in Canada (ANiC), a network of churches who do not feel they can, in good conscience, be part of the ACC and are seeking communion with Canterbury via the ANiC.

However, I live in Canada. And the ACC, like our (I'm including myself with my brothers and sisters in the Canadian church here for solidarity's sake) bretheren in ECUSA, has been threatened by the Abp. of Canterbury with excommunication from the Communion by 2008, unless we collectively repent.

Honestly, there are good bishops in the ACC. There are bishops who are afraid to speak out, and who sit on the fence though they may preach faithfulness to the Scriptures to their own flocks. I pray Christ is merciful to them and shows them that this is not the way to go. And there are downright heretical bishops who outright preach what my Rector, David, rightly called "another religion" other than Christianity. But I think that the cancer of heresy is too widespread, and I think Canterbury and the global communion (70% of the Anglican communion is in the so-called "Global South - Africa, Southeast Asia, South America, and the Middle East) will not put up with ACC/ECUSA's heresy forever. I pray that Christ is merciful and, through a miracle of His providence, grants a mass repentance, just as He granted with Nineveh and His prophet Jonah. However, failing that, I believe the only holy alternative is for the Abp. of Canterbury, and the rest of the denomination, to excommunicate ECUSA and ACC en masse, and to establish a faithful Anglican presence by uniting those particular organizations that have splintered off (such as bodies that have already developed, like the Anglican Mission in America, the Anglican Coalition in Canada (both of which draw their membership in the Communion through the Bishops of Rwanda, actually), the Anglican Network in Canada, and a whole host of other splinter groups.

Does that make sense, or did I succeed in confusing you?
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No that makes perfect sense. From what I hear the Anglican church in England has released a statement saying that an official split with ECUSA is imminent. It is a shame that there is such division in your denomination over such easily discernable truths. But I guess there's a blessing in the fact that the false converts are being "weeded out," as they say.
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But I want to know what you guys really think about the current resolutions passed that now describe the Trinity by saying mother, child, womb (or something like that) and the endorsing of homosexuality.
*pssst* That's the PCUSA.

And the "endorsement" of homosexuality was kind of a "we didn't say this, so you can assume that we mean this" thing.
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*pssst* That's the PCUSA.
My bad, sorry.
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