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Unread 12-05-2001, 05:38 PM   #31
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My opinion of their greatness or lack there of isn't just about lyrics
Well that was what the he was talking about. So apparently your post was useless.

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Unread 12-05-2001, 06:24 PM   #32
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Give it a break, brotha. I was just trying to say that it was HIS opinion, and my opinion was similar in that we don't think they're the best, albeit not for the same reasons. We could debate this all day, but it's useless. If you want to continue to pick apart and misconstrue what I'm saying, go ahead. It's subjective opinion vs. subjective opinion, nuff said.
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Unread 12-05-2001, 10:12 PM   #33
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Well...... i WAS just stating my opinion.... and giving an example to back it up.


Im sorry that EVERY thing i say doesnt please you 100%

Sometimes i get the feeling that im talking to a 5 year old...
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Unread 12-05-2001, 10:41 PM   #34
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Unread 12-06-2001, 11:53 AM   #35
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Give it a break, brotha.
Um, no how about you give it a break if you want to. This thread is for people with questions about Tool. That was explicitly stated in the beginning post.

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I was just trying to say that it was HIS opinion, and my opinion was similar in that we don't think they're the best, albeit not for the same reasons.
You didn't say that, did you? I am just trying to figure out what you are saying since you seem to have a problem in making sense.

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We could debate this all day, but it's useless.
Then stop posting in my thread.

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If you want to continue to pick apart and misconstrue what I'm saying, go ahead.
Perhaps if you would be more clear and actually make sense I would not misconstrue it.

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It's subjective opinion vs. subjective opinion, nuff said.
Ok, then I don't expect to see you back in here.



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Well...... i WAS just stating my opinion.... and giving an example to back it up.
This thread is for questions about Tool. If you want to give your opinion I can't stop you, but I will refute it.

Are you upset that I refuted what you said? That is what takes place on a debate board, in case you didn't know.

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Im sorry that EVERY thing i say doesnt please you 100%
Apology accepted.

Seriously though, I just disagreed with you and you got offended. I could whine about how I am sorry that my opinion didn't please you and crap, but I won't.

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Sometimes i get the feeling that im talking to a 5 year old...
You should watch how you talk to me. These immature insults only make you look bad.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 02:10 PM   #36
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Unread 12-06-2001, 02:30 PM   #37
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chill man, dont take things too seriously.
I don't think that what he said was meant as a joke, but as an insult, and I don't take well to insults.

And to be honest, I am quite tired of SenorPapaCabasa and the way that that he seems to think that his opinion is beyond reproach. While he contridicts someone else, he whines about being contridicted. For another example, look through the old thread about my trip to Phoenix to see Tool. He implies things, or says them blatantly, then becomes indignant when called upon to clarify what he meant or when he is refuted.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:10 PM   #38
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I don't think that what he said was meant as a joke, but as an insult, and I don't take well to insults.


It wasnt either one.

And you also said this was a debate board. I dont see any debating here.... you just quote what everyone says and stomp on it.

If you are mad that i dont like Tool..... too bad. I never condricted you, i just stated my opinion and showed you why. Then you turned around and made a smart litte remark... just like on every other post here that you didnt like.
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but you getting all annoyed at him wont help. Whats the most annoying thing in the world? Someone you are angry at acting like they don't care. Just don't care about what he says.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:10 PM   #40
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:33 PM   #41
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I love Tool. I truly believe that they are one of the greatest bands ever to exist. Maynard does, however, seem to have an extreme hate for Jesus Christ. Their website had (and may still have) an opening page claiming that people should do everything in their power to protect themselves from evil spirits when listening to Tool's music because the music was filled with them. When I listen to my Mer De Noms CD, I have to skip over Judith. I love the music and Maynard's voice is incredible, but I can't take the lyrics. I understand if he was just venting anger or something, but that's not the way to do it. I do love Tool's music, though, and Maynard's lyrics are incredible, for the most part.

Also, PleasuresPain...you seem to be getting really offended really easily. It is okay for people not to like Tool. If it were up to me, everyone would like Tool...but it's not up to me. In all honesty, you are being really childish in this thread. I realize that will upset you, but I don't really care because you need to know the truth.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:36 PM   #42
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It wasnt either one.
What was it then?

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And you also said this was a debate board. I dont see any debating here.... you just quote what everyone says and stomp on it.
I support what I say, and refute what you say. That is debate.

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If you are mad that i dont like Tool..... too bad.
No I'm not. Where did I ever say that?

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I never condricted you, i just stated my opinion and showed you why.
It was different than mine, you contridicted me. Mine was different than yours, what I said contridicted you. I wasn't saying that contridicting is bad, I am saying that is what happens here. We both do it, but you whine when you are contridicted.

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Then you turned around and made a smart litte remark... just like on every other post here that you didnt like.
So what? I have the right to contridict you. The thread wasn't about "do you like Tool??" or "state your opinion of Tool," t was QUESTIONS about Tool. Where was your question? I didn't see one. You were off topic.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:37 PM   #43
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lol, and yes that was me.
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:52 PM   #44
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If I may......
First off, this is a CHRISTIAN board...and I don't seem to recall a verse in the Bible that says fight to the bitter end to prove you're right. It says to be humble...which would require accepting others opinions and backing off once in a while.
Second, if this thread is just for questions about tool, and you don't want someone posting comments about tool or something that is not a question about tool, then it might be wise to back down....it only causes others to want to come back and some something better.
Third, one person's fav band is NOT the best...NO matter how hard you try to defend them...it is still a matter of opinion. You cannot force your views on someone else.
Fourth (to those replying to Travis), don't keep backing up your opinions. Refer to the second issue...
Lyrics may be taken in any consideration... it is all in the eye of the beholder...in the same manner as opinions are different, so are our eyes... Accept it..
If you would like a question, then explain what the song Judith is talking about...it might help others to see your pov, but might not....at least then, they might fully see your view.
This board is supposed to be fun to come to...by making it a total debate board, you suck the life out of it...True, we do like to give our opinions on this board (this forum is definitely no exception)...but, I don't know how many come here to argue their point to the ground...but that's just my view.
Finally, since you only want questions about Tool on this thread, don't worry about me makin any more replies....I don't have any more questions....But someone else might...
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Unread 12-06-2001, 03:55 PM   #45
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Your right


It would definetly help if i didnt come to this thread again.... sorry if i offended ya travis and that "you are tired of me"..... cya around
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