Our Kent Hovind?

jfahler03 · 05-31-2006, 11:35 PM

Not sure what you all think of Kent Hovind , but based on the fact that most Creation Scientists don't like him (including Answers in Genesis), I'm betting that he's not too popular.

While searching for Christian revisionist history out of curiosity, I came across a David Barton , founder and leader/whatever of WallBuilders, an organization which is "dedicated to presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on the moral, religious, and constitutional foundation on which America was built" (See link).

This guy definately seems to be as wacky, with the political and religious intent to change the world. Even scarier is his association with the Republican party of Texas and the fact that he at least appears to have more credibility than Hovind.

What do you all think?

**Vershal** · 06-01-2006, 10:27 AM

I've read one of his books (I think it was titled The Myth of Separation.) He gave a few points (e.g. Jefferson may not have been orthodox, after all), but he's firmly convinced that until 1947 (Everson v. Board of Education) the United States had a fully Christian government.

jfahler03 · 06-02-2006, 04:03 PM

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I've read one of his books (I think it was titled The Myth of Separation.) He gave a few points (e.g. Jefferson may not have been orthodox, after all), but he's firmly convinced that until 1947 (Everson v. Board of Education) the United States had a fully Christian government.

Does he ever address the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, and if so, what does he make of it?

**Vershal** · 06-05-2006, 02:21 PM

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Does he ever address the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, and if so, what does he make of it?

It's been years since I read the the book. I have it crated and in the back of a closet two hours from where I live.

Adam K · 03-24-2007, 05:42 PM

I quite enjoy Hovind's videos. "I have a theory about that"

Godslilrosebud · 03-25-2007, 02:06 PM

Yah, I like that.

Unfortunately, he's in prison right now.....

luvinjesus · 03-25-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jfahler03

Not sure what you all think of Kent Hovind , but based on the fact that most Creation Scientists don't like him (including Answers in Genesis), I'm betting that he's not too popular.

While searching for Christian revisionist history out of curiosity, I came across a David Barton , founder and leader/whatever of WallBuilders, an organization which is "dedicated to presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on the moral, religious, and constitutional foundation on which America was built" (See link).

This guy definately seems to be as wacky, with the political and religious intent to change the world. Even scarier is his association with the Republican party of Texas and the fact that he at least appears to have more credibility than Hovind.

What do you all think?

The fact that Hovind does not like to, nor did he pay taxes makes me not listen to anything he has to say. But even before that, I ignored him. My ex-church would play the videos during services. I always went to the nursery to help out with the kids when they started playing that garbage.
His dinosaur videos are pure crap as well. But then, I've never heard of Barton.

Adam K · 03-25-2007, 02:56 PM

um....wow

I don't know what you think is so pure crap about them.

Peatrical · 03-25-2007, 03:38 PM

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um....wow

I don't know what you think is so pure crap about them.

His theories are nonsense.

Adam K · 03-25-2007, 04:35 PM

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His theories are nonsense.

I know this isn't the place to discuss his theories, but I don't see how his theories are any more insane than most scientists.

Peatrical · 03-25-2007, 05:22 PM

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I know this isn't the place to discuss his theories, but I don't see how his theories are any more insane than most scientists.

What's insane about scientifically sound and accurate dating methods? This guy claim dinosaurs were around 4000 thousand years ago, which is like I said nonsense. Not to mention he has no credentials.

luvinjesus · 03-25-2007, 05:27 PM

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I know this isn't the place to discuss his theories, but I don't see how his theories are any more insane than most scientists.

Evangalist does not equal scientist. No matter how good it may sound.

Adam K · 03-25-2007, 06:13 PM

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Evangalist does not equal scientist. No matter how good it may sound.

That does not discredit his theories.

tropicana · 03-25-2007, 06:47 PM

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That does not discredit his theories.

Except, if there were evidence for his hypotheses, don't you think some of them could have been validated by now?

And, Barton's "unconfirmed" quotations seem rather fishy. I followed some of the links to the Wallbuilders site, and, while offers evidence that the views in the quotes may be consistent with the views of the founders, I think it's academically sloppy to "attribute" any of those quotes to that particular person without a valid primary source, even with the "unconfirmed" tag, and then proceed to offer it as proof that Christianity should be ingrained into the fabric of American democracy.
However, I very firmly believe that any one religion and the state should be as separated as possible.

**meatfinger** · 03-25-2007, 07:04 PM

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um....wow

I don't know what you think is so pure crap about them.

There's also the fact that the man is a total jackass.

Seriously, he is. He may be the most condescending jerk I've ever wasted my time listening to.